Result of starting an online forum in Saudi Arabia

[Anchor Moy]

Well, they certainly don't kid about:

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world ... 67008.html

[General Mackevili]

Well, they certainly don't kid about:

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world ... 67008.html

Wow! Funny how he appealed, and then got a lot more time and a lot more lashes in the retrial! Ouch!



Hmmmmmm.... Saudi Expats Online? Nah.......

[Anchor Moy]

As our expert on Saudi affairs, how do they go about this flogging business ? Is it done in public as a warning to all you people who might be thinking of starting a forum?

Apparently the guy is going to get 50 lashes every Friday... spinning out the suffering, or maybe they don't want him to cause a fuss by dying too soon.

Welcome to the dark side.

[General Mackevili]

As our expert on Saudi affairs, how do they go about this flogging business ? Is it done in public as a warning to all you people who might be thinking of starting a forum?

Apparently the guy is going to get 50 lashes every Friday... spinning out the suffering, or maybe they don't want him to cause a fuss by dying too soon.

Welcome to the dark side.

I actually don't know.

I still haven't gone to see a public beheading. I hear I will get ushered to the front of the crowd. They like to let Westerners get a front row seat.

[Anchor Moy]

As our expert on Saudi affairs, how do they go about this flogging business ? Is it done in public as a warning to all you people who might be thinking of starting a forum?

Apparently the guy is going to get 50 lashes every Friday... spinning out the suffering, or maybe they don't want him to cause a fuss by dying too soon.

Welcome to the dark side.

I actually don't know.

I still haven't gone to see a public beheading. I hear I will get ushered to the front of the crowd. They like to let Westerners get a front row seat.

Careful. Someone might point their finger at you and say "This man also runs an infidel forum."

[Bitte_Kein_Lexus]

What I think is scarier is the fact that his lawyer was imprisoned for 15 years! It'll be hard to find lawyers to defend individuals in such cases in the future, haha. Maybe he did more than just be his lawyer, still, a very harsh sentence. 2 more years than that guy got for killing the Dutch woman and her kid...

[The Add Jay]

Coming to a country near you! Good luck EuroArabia!

[Anchor Moy]

I think this answers my questions - floggings are a public humiliation.
SA is one of the worst authoritarian regimes, but an ally of the US, so they ignore quaint customs like this one. The Afghans needed saving from those barbaric Taliban, but these Saudis are just good old boys. Carry on...

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/j ... aif-badawi

Saudi blogger receives first 50 lashes of sentence for 'insulting Islam'.

Raif Badawi has been given 10 years in prison and 1,000 lashes to be carried out over 20 weeks.

A Saudi blogger convicted of insulting Islam was brought after Friday prayers to a public square in the port city of Jeddah and flogged 50 times before hundreds of spectators, a witness to the lashing said.

The witness said Raif Badawi’s feet and hands were shackled during the flogging but his face was visible. He remained silent and did not cry out, said the witness, who spoke to the Associated Press on condition of anonymity fearing government reprisal.

Badawi was sentenced last May to 10 years in prison and 1,000 lashes. He had criticized Saudi Arabia’s powerful clerics on a liberal blog he founded. The blog has since been shut down. He was also ordered to pay a fine of 1m riyals or about $266,600.

Rights activists say Saudi authorities are using Badawi’s case as a warning to others who think to criticise the kingdom’s powerful religious establishment from which the ruling family partly derives its authority.

London-based Amnesty International said he would receive 50 lashes once a week for 20 weeks. The US, a close ally of Saudi Arabia, has called on authorities to cancel the punishment.

Despite international pleas for his release, Badawi, a father of three, was brought from prison by bus to the public square on Friday and flogged on the back in front of a crowd that had just finished midday prayers at a nearby mosque. His face was visible and, throughout the flogging, he clenched his eyes and remained silent, said the witness.

The witness, who also has close knowledge of the case, said the lashing lasted about 15 minutes.

Badawi has been held since mid-2012 after he founded the Free Saudi Liberals blog. He used it to criticise the kingdom’s influential clerics who follow a strict, conservative interpretation of Islam known as Wahhabism, which originated in Saudi Arabia.

He was originally sentenced in 2013 to seven years in prison and 600 lashes in relation to the charges, but after an appeal the judge stiffened the punishment. Following his arrest, his wife and children left the kingdom for Canada.

Rights groups argue that the case against Badawi is part of a wider crackdown on freedom of speech and dissent in Saudi Arabia since the 2011 Arab Spring uprisings. Criticism of clerics is seen as a red line because of their prestige in the kingdom, as well as their influential role in supporting government policies.

According to Amnesty the charges against Badawi mention his failure to remove articles by other people on his website. He was also accused in court of ridiculing Saudi Arabia’s morality police.

In a statement after the flogging Amnesty called it a “vicious act of cruelty” and said Badawi’s “only ‘crime’ was to exercise his right to freedom of expression by setting up a website for public discussion”.

[General Mackevili]

As our expert on Saudi affairs, how do they go about this flogging business ? Is it done in public as a warning to all you people who might be thinking of starting a forum?

Apparently the guy is going to get 50 lashes every Friday... spinning out the suffering, or maybe they don't want him to cause a fuss by dying too soon.

Welcome to the dark side.

I actually don't know.

I still haven't gone to see a public beheading. I hear I will get ushered to the front of the crowd. They like to let Westerners get a front row seat.

Careful. Someone might point their finger at you and say "This man also runs an infidel forum."

Thank Buddha for my VPN!

[thePeck]

Thank Buddha for my VPN!

I've heard they can sniff through a VPN, not easy and can't really tell but have the requirement of "evidence" really mattered to these people? Use the Tor Browser on top of your VPN. But I'm paranoid like that lol.