Doc67 wrote: ↑Sat Sep 11, 2021 10:48 am
Too slow Clutch...

Haha yeah, it didn't come up and tell me there was a new post this time..

Anyway, this revelation that there's a witness that saw the Prince and Giuffre together in London will likely blow his argument that he didn't know her out of the water.. Then again, I think most people knew that already..and don't believe the pic of them together was 'doctored' nor the pizza night with the kids theories

clutchcargo wrote: ↑Sat Sep 11, 2021 10:43 am So what constitutes whether a lawsuit has been legally served or not??

Prince Andrew: Duke of York served with legal papers for sexual assault lawsuit, according to US court document

Lawyers representing Virginia Giuffre - who is suing the Duke of York - say in the document that the civil lawsuit was handed to a Metropolitan Police officer on duty at the main gates of The Royal Lodge, Windsor Great Park, on 27 August.

According to the document, there was a first attempt to serve the papers on the prince on 26 August, when an agent went to Windsor Great Park. A Metropolitan Police officer who was the head of security said they had been told not to accept service of any court process, or let anyone trying to serve legal papers on to the property.

The agent then returned the following day and was told the court process could be left with the police officer at the main gate "and that this matter would then be forwarded on to the legal team".

Sources close to the Queen's son say he has not been served the papers in person, and could not confirm if security had received the document.


[In associated news:]

Lisa Bloom is a lawyer who represents eight victims of Epstein. Although she does not represent Ms Giuffre, one of her clients is a witness who alleges she saw Prince Andrew and Ms Giuffre together in London. She told Sky News this is a "colossal development", adding: "Apparently he has been served. That means it's game on for the lawsuit - it goes forward.

"That means that after a couple of weeks pass, her attorneys will be able to subpoena records, documents, logbooks, calendars, photos, texts, emails - anything that he or anybody else may have that will become relevant to the lawsuit and that would show, for example, that the two of them were together in New York at the places and times where she says that they were." When asked whether it was likely that Prince Andrew will face a deposition, she added: "Absolutely - I would be very surprised if a judge says he does not have to appear at all."

Full: https://news.sky.com/story/prince-andre ... s-12404352

The idea that he is going to serve up private records, diaries, logbooks, emails etc is for the birds. And the judge can order a deposition, he won't comply. The more he says the more damage he will do.

Unless they can thrash out a settlement quickly and privately, he may well just say "fuck it, get your default judgement, you won't get a penny out of me"
.

The plaintiff's might just overplay their hand and get nothing.

As I predicted..

Prince Andrew's team dispute claims accuser served legal papers

Prince Andrew's team do not believe that legal papers from lawyers for the woman who has accused him of sexual abuse have been successfully served, the BBC understands.

Virginia Giuffre has launched a civil case against the prince in New York - and legal papers have to be "served" before the case can proceed.

Her lawyers said they were left with a police officer at his home in Windsor.

On Monday, a US judge must determine whether the papers have in fact been "served" before any case can get under way.

Ms Giuffre's legal team claim that by leaving the papers with the officer, the service was successfully completed.

Asked whether the prince had received the papers and if he accepted they had been served, a spokeswoman representing the prince said: "No comment."

One reason it is believed the duke's team does not consider papers have been served is because they maintain British legal procedures require that a valid request for assistance from UK court officials must come from a judicial or diplomatic officer in the US - and not from Ms Giuffre's lawyers.

Full: https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-58527909

Strategy wise, Prince Andrew has decided to NOT ignore the US proceedings..

Prince Andrew hires Armie Hammer’s lawyer to contest ‘baseless, non-viable’ US lawsuit

In a surprise move, the 61-year-old royal hired US lawyer Andrew Brettler to represent him during a pretrial conference in New York Court on Monday local-time. Brettler’s appearance was confirmed just hours before the hearing. He also acts for Hollywood actor Armie Hammer, who was accused of sexual assault, amid rumours of alleged cannibalism, earlier this year.

Monday’s 30-minute hearing was dominated by a dispute over whether Andrew has actually been served with the legal papers, which is required for the case to proceed. Andrew’s legal team had hoped to block the case by arguing he had not been properly served.

Giuffre’s lawyer David Boies said the documents were served via “multiple methods” - including via a Metropolitan Police officer at the main gates of Andrew’s home in Windsor Great Park on August 27. They were also emailed to his British lawyers and to his royal household office email address.

During Monday’s teleconference, Brettler foreshadowed an attempt to have the case struck out due to the existence of a 2009 settlement between Giuffre and Epstein. The settlement - which is confidential - may include a clause precluding Giuffre from suing any of the financier’s friends, employees or associates.

Judge Kaplan said he “understands the point” that Andrew’s legal team would like to see the document and “there’s a lot to be said for that point of view”. A separate judge is determining whether the settlement agreement should be made public.

The next hearing will be held on October 13.

Full: https://www.smh.com.au/world/europe/pri ... 58rds.html

clutchcargo wrote: ↑Tue Sep 14, 2021 5:02 pm Strategy wise, Prince Andrew has decided to NOT ignore the US proceedings..

Prince Andrew hires Armie Hammer’s lawyer to contest ‘baseless, non-viable’ US lawsuit

In a surprise move, the 61-year-old royal hired US lawyer Andrew Brettler to represent him during a pretrial conference in New York Court on Monday local-time. Brettler’s appearance was confirmed just hours before the hearing. He also acts for Hollywood actor Armie Hammer, who was accused of sexual assault, amid rumours of alleged cannibalism, earlier this year.

Full: https://www.smh.com.au/world/europe/pri ... 58rds.html

LOL, that's a great reference, and a great headline.
"Prince Hires Lawyer of Suspected Cannibal"

Randy Andy needs money to settle 2 matters? Lousy investment, same price he bought in 2014.

Prince Andrew is selling his $23 million Swiss ski chalet to settle a lawsuit, report says



Prince Andrew is selling his £17 million, or about $US23 ($AU32) million, Swiss chalet to settle a lawsuit over the property, according to the Times of London’s Roya Nikkhah.

The former owner, socialite Isabelle de Rouvre, sued Prince Andrew and his ex-wife Sarah Ferguson in 2020 over £6.6 million, or nearly $US9 ($AU12) million, she said the two owed her, the Times reported. De Rouvre took legal action after claiming that the former couple skipped a January 1 deadline to pay the final installment on the seven-bedroom property, according to the Times.

The Duke and Duchess of York bought the house from de Rouvre in 2014 for £16.6 million, or around $US22.75 ($AU31) million, the Times reports.

De Rourve has dropped the lawsuit now that the home’s sale is close to being finalized, and the Yorks have agreed to use the profits to pay the amount they owe, according to the publication.

https://www.businessinsider.com.au/prin ... ays-2021-9

No surprises there..

UK police won’t act against Prince Andrew over abuse claim

London: British police have announced they will not take any action against Prince Andrew after a review prompted by a Jeffrey Epstein accuser who claims that he sexually assaulted her.

Full: https://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/world/ ... 58z4h.html

Prince Andrew’s attorneys repeat claims that Virginia Roberts Giuffre wanted to recruit ‘slutty’ girls for Epstein to abuse as they up the ante in legal battle

Prince Andrew’s attorneys have sought to portray Jeffrey Epstein victim Virginia Roberts Giuffre as a predator motivated by greed, which marks a turning point in Prince Andrew’s legal strategy, court filings show.

Prince Andrew’s attorneys wrote that despite “lurid allegations” against the prince, Giuffre herself was involved in the “the willful recruitment and trafficking of young girls for sexual abuse.”

In a section entitled ‘Giuffre’s role in Epstein’s criminal enterprise,’ The document quotes Crystal Figueroa, the sister of Giuffre’s former boyfriend, who told the New York Daily News that Giuffre recruited underage girls for Epstein. “She [Giuffre] would say to me, ‘Do you know any girls who are kind of slutty?'” Figueroa said, according to the court filing.

The documents also quote Philip Guderyon, who used to date Giuffre, and reportedly said that she appeared to be “head b***h” at Epstein’s mansion.

In the filing Prince Andrew’s attorneys also suggested that Giuffre was making false allegations of sexual abuse about high-profile individuals in order to profit off of the publicity. They said that Giuffre earned large sums of money by selling stories and photographs to the press and making agreements with her alleged abusers.

They pointed to the fact Giuffre sold an exclusive interview and photograph of her with Prince Andrew to the Daily Mail for $US160,000 ($AU212,846), and that she made millions of dollars in a settlement reached with Ghislaine Maxwell over defamation allegations.

“Most people could only dream of obtaining the sums of money that Giuffre has secured for herself over the years,” the lawyers wrote.

They further suggested that Giuffre’s various lawsuits against high-profile individuals were burdening the courts and preventing action against real predators.

“Giuffre has initiated this baseless lawsuit against Prince Andrew to achieve another payday at his expense and at the expense of those closest to him,” they wrote.

The attempts to paint Giuffre as a predator motivated by greed marks a turning point in Prince Andrew’s legal strategy.

Full: https://www.businessinsider.com.au/prin ... in-2021-10

^^Imagine the Queen sitting and reading that. I think he's realized there's no happy ending to any of this whatever happens and he's got nothing to lose by going in like this. Very unbecoming for a prince of the realm but again, what's he got to lose?

All we need now is for the Queen to kick the bucket in the middle of all of this and we'll have ourselves the most hated and despised man in all of human history.