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Re: Outbreak of Unidentified Coronavirus In China as New Year Approaches

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Pangolins may have spread coronavirus to humans
Endangered species could be missing link between bats and humans, researchers believe
Agence France-Presse
Fri 7 Feb 2020 18.09 GMT
First published on Fri 7 Feb 2020 17.43 GMT
Image Photograph: Roslan Rahman/AFP via Getty Images
Chinese researchers investigating the animal origin of the coronavirus outbreak in China have said that the endangered pangolin may be the “missing link” between bats and humans.

Bats are known carriers of the latest strain of the disease, which has infected at least 31,000 people and killed more than 630 worldwide, mostly in China where the outbreak started.

A genetic analysis showed that the strain of the virus currently spreading among humans was 96% identical to that found in bats.

But according to Arnaud Fontanet, from France’s Pasteur Institute, the disease did not jump straight from bats to humans. “We think there’s another animal that’s an intermediary,” he told AFP.

The Sars outbreak of 2002-3, involving a different strain of coronavirus, was transferred to humans by the civet, a small mammal whose meat is considered a delicacy in China.

Many animals are capable of transmitting viruses to other species, and nearly all strains of coronavirus contagious to humans originated in wildlife.

Several studies have shown that the bat-borne virus lacks the necessary hardware to latch onto human cell receptors. But it’s still not clear which animal is the missing link.

Fontanet believes the intermediary was “probably a mammal,” possibly belonging to the badger family.

After testing more than 1,000 samples from wild animals, scientists at the South China Agricultural University found that the genome sequences of viruses in pangolins to be 99% identical to those on coronavirus patients, the official Xinhua news agency reported.

But other experts urged caution. “This is not scientific evidence,” said James Wood, head of the department of veterinary medicine at the University of Cambridge. “Investigations into animal reservoirs are extremely important, but results must be then be published for international scrutiny.”

“Simply reporting detection of viral RNA with sequence similarity of more than 99% is not sufficient,” he added.

To conclusively identify the culprit, researchers would need to test each species that was on sale at the market – a near impossibility given that it is now permanently closed.
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CEOCambodiaNews wrote: Sat Feb 08, 2020 2:52 am Pangolins may have spread coronavirus to humans
Endangered species could be missing link between bats and humans, researchers believe
Agence France-Presse
Fri 7 Feb 2020 18.09 GMT
First published on Fri 7 Feb 2020 17.43 GMT
Image Photograph: Roslan Rahman/AFP via Getty Images
Chinese researchers investigating the animal origin of the coronavirus outbreak in China have said that the endangered pangolin may be the “missing link” between bats and humans.

Bats are known carriers of the latest strain of the disease, which has infected at least 31,000 people and killed more than 630 worldwide, mostly in China where the outbreak started.

A genetic analysis showed that the strain of the virus currently spreading among humans was 96% identical to that found in bats.

But according to Arnaud Fontanet, from France’s Pasteur Institute, the disease did not jump straight from bats to humans. “We think there’s another animal that’s an intermediary,” he told AFP.

The Sars outbreak of 2002-3, involving a different strain of coronavirus, was transferred to humans by the civet, a small mammal whose meat is considered a delicacy in China.

Many animals are capable of transmitting viruses to other species, and nearly all strains of coronavirus contagious to humans originated in wildlife.

Several studies have shown that the bat-borne virus lacks the necessary hardware to latch onto human cell receptors. But it’s still not clear which animal is the missing link.

Fontanet believes the intermediary was “probably a mammal,” possibly belonging to the badger family.

After testing more than 1,000 samples from wild animals, scientists at the South China Agricultural University found that the genome sequences of viruses in pangolins to be 99% identical to those on coronavirus patients, the official Xinhua news agency reported.

But other experts urged caution. “This is not scientific evidence,” said James Wood, head of the department of veterinary medicine at the University of Cambridge. “Investigations into animal reservoirs are extremely important, but results must be then be published for international scrutiny.”

“Simply reporting detection of viral RNA with sequence similarity of more than 99% is not sufficient,” he added.

To conclusively identify the culprit, researchers would need to test each species that was on sale at the market – a near impossibility given that it is now permanently closed.
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fyi 2-9 8:33 am
34, 638 cases, 720 deaths ( SARS 774) 2029 recovered
28 countries +China
In a nation run by swine, all pigs are upward-mobile and the rest of us are fucked until we can put our acts together: not necessarily to win, but mainly to keep from losing completely. HST
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nigel's soup wrote: Fri Feb 07, 2020 7:58 pm
Not quite sure it's time to panic buy just yet, although maybe wouldn't hurt to have a big bag of rice tucked away.
No, I don't think there's a reason to panic, we simply know too little about what's going on.

But if you want to prepare, you should prepare before the masses in the KoW start moving. If the virus really sets foot in Cambodia and people start getting seriously ill here as well the tables might turn pretty fast. So a bag of rice tucked away (you will eat it anyway) won't hurt I guess?
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Kammekor wrote: Sat Feb 08, 2020 9:25 am
nigel's soup wrote: Fri Feb 07, 2020 7:58 pm
Not quite sure it's time to panic buy just yet, although maybe wouldn't hurt to have a big bag of rice tucked away.
No, I don't think there's a reason to panic, we simply know too little about what's going on.

But if you want to prepare, you should prepare before the masses in the KoW start moving. If the virus really sets foot in Cambodia and people start getting seriously ill here as well the tables might turn pretty fast. So a bag of rice tucked away (you will eat it anyway) won't hurt I guess?

And just in case you should have 20 or 30 cartons of beer tucked away [ you will be drinking it anyway ]

Remember when the beer companies go into lockdown because of this virus, beer might be worth $10 a can.
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yong wrote: Fri Feb 07, 2020 8:49 pm My doomsday zombie attack prep last weekend.

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Will review items tomorrow and top up if necessary. (Sandbags? Hmmmmm.)
Have you tried one of these?

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Doc67 wrote: Sat Feb 08, 2020 9:43 am
yong wrote: Fri Feb 07, 2020 8:49 pm My doomsday zombie attack prep last weekend.

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Will review items tomorrow and top up if necessary. (Sandbags? Hmmmmm.)
Have you tried one of these?

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Is there a book with instructions written in Khmer that go with that remedy.
Cambodia,,,, Don't fall in love with her.
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Sobering video with Professor Neil Ferguson, Institute for Disease and Emergency Analytics at the Imperial College London who seems to know what he's talking about and despite a dry interview, drops a few bombshells:

10% or less of the infections have been detected so far
Outside of China it’s about 25% of the infections
There are an estimated 50,000 new infections PER DAY
He thinks the disease is doubling every five days
There is no evidence yet of it slowing down
It will probably peak in about a month in China but there is a lot of uncertainty about that
After it peaks in China, the rest of the world will continue to have epidemics of the disease for a while longer
The disease is very hard to control, like SARS
It will take months or perhaps years to develop a vaccine
There is a wide range of symptoms – some people are affected only very mildly, and if they are transmitting it’s very hard to control
Mild cases are the majority
It can take a person three weeks to die, so the fact that there are not many deaths so far is not reassuring.

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Duncan wrote: Sat Feb 08, 2020 9:46 am
Doc67 wrote: Sat Feb 08, 2020 9:43 am
yong wrote: Fri Feb 07, 2020 8:49 pm My doomsday zombie attack prep last weekend.

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Will review items tomorrow and top up if necessary. (Sandbags? Hmmmmm.)
Have you tried one of these?

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Is there a book with instructions written in Khmer that go with that remedy.
Yes there is...

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Duncan wrote: Sat Feb 08, 2020 9:36 am
Kammekor wrote: Sat Feb 08, 2020 9:25 am
nigel's soup wrote: Fri Feb 07, 2020 7:58 pm
Not quite sure it's time to panic buy just yet, although maybe wouldn't hurt to have a big bag of rice tucked away.
No, I don't think there's a reason to panic, we simply know too little about what's going on.

But if you want to prepare, you should prepare before the masses in the KoW start moving. If the virus really sets foot in Cambodia and people start getting seriously ill here as well the tables might turn pretty fast. So a bag of rice tucked away (you will eat it anyway) won't hurt I guess?

And just in case you should have 20 or 30 cartons of beer tucked away [ you will be drinking it anyway ]

Remember when the beer companies go into lockdown because of this virus, beer might be worth $10 a can.
$10 for a beer. No that is fear mongering!!
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