Following the Coronavirus (COVID-19) Outbreak - News and Discussion

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Re: Following the Coronavirus (COVID-19) Outbreak - News and Discussion

Post by ExPenhMan » Tue Jul 28, 2020 2:26 pm

Meanwhile, the church's accountant said "on the bright side, we made a killing this week."
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Post by CEOCambodiaNews » Tue Jul 28, 2020 7:28 pm

Can you get the coronavirus twice?
The Associated Press today

Can you get the coronavirus twice?

Scientists don’t know for sure yet, but they believe it’s unlikely.

Health experts think people who had COVID-19 will have some immunity against a repeat infection. But they don’t know how much protection or how long it would last.

There have been reports of people testing positive for the virus weeks after they were believed to have recovered, leading some to think they may have been reinfected. More likely, experts say people were suffering from the same illness or the tests detected remnants of the original infection. There’s also the chance tests could have been false positives.

Scientists say there has been no documented instance of a patient spreading the virus to others after retesting positive.

With similar viruses, studies have shown that people could fall sick again three months to a year after their first infections. It’s still too early to know whether that’s also possible with the coronavirus.

“It’s very much emerging science,” said Dr. Philip Landrigan, director of the global public health program at Boston College.

A small U.S. study published last week also found the antibodies that fight the coronavirus may only last a few months in people with mild illness, suggesting people could become susceptible again. But antibodies aren’t the only defense against a virus, and the other parts of the immune system could also help provide protection.

Settling the question of whether reinfection is possible is important. If it can occur, that could undermine the idea of “immunity passports” for returning back to workplaces. And it would not bode well for hopes of getting a long-lasting vaccine.
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Post by phuketrichard » Tue Jul 28, 2020 7:42 pm

....Scientists don’t know for sure yet, but they believe it’s unlikely.

REALLY?

June 18th
Less than two months after testing positive for COVID-19, and two negative tests, a Lafayette woman tested positive again.
https://www.9news.com/article/news/heal ... 8f30397955

Feb 27th
Woman catches coronavirus twice confirming the worst fears of scientists

A Japanese woman has become the first person in the world to catch coronavirus twice.
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-new ... g-21587251

June 15th
Dallas Woman Battling Coronavirus, Again
A Dallas woman tested positive for COVID-19 in February, recovered, then tested positive again in June
https://www.nbcdfw.com/news/coronavirus ... n/2389265/

So get it once, NO immunity against getting it again.
In a nation run by swine, all pigs are upward-mobile and the rest of us are fucked until we can put our acts together: not necessarily to win, but mainly to keep from losing completely. HST
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Re: Following the Coronavirus (COVID-19) Outbreak - News and Discussion

Post by yong » Tue Jul 28, 2020 7:58 pm

This is what happen if a country who is doing well in managing the Chinese Virus starts to relax and let it's guard down. And isn't it too late for the Prime Minister to "calls for immediate prosecution of undocumented immigrants"

https://asia.nikkei.com/Spotlight/Coron ... =%%user_id%%

Vietnam tightens border control as new coronavirus cases emerge
Prime minister calls for immediate prosecution of undocumented immigrants

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Vietnamese border guards wear masks at the Huu Nghi crossing with China on Feb. 20. © Reuters
TOMOYA ONISHI, Nikkei staff writerJuly 27, 2020 15:49 JST

HANOI -- Vietnamese Prime Minister Nguyen Xuan Phuc has asked local authorities to impose tighter controls on illegal immigrants from neighboring countries as the Southeast Asian nation, which has won praise for effectively containing the coronavirus, confirmed its first new locally transmitted cases in three months in the city of Danang.

Phuc on Monday called for authorities in the central Vietnamese city to take strong measures to prevent the spread of any more cases.

"We must have a decisive attitude, otherwise we [Vietnam] will fail in this anti-epidemic campaign," Phuc said in an online meeting on COVID-19 prevention and control with authorities in Danang. The prime minister asked authorities there to implement social distancing throughout the city starting from the afternoon.

"Nonessential services must be stopped," Phuc said. "We have not used the 'lockdown' word for Danang yet, but there must be a level of social distancing." He also called for stronger actions in that regard than the city itself announced Sunday.

Phuc's concern came after Nguyen Thanh Long, the acting health minister, in a meeting with the government on Saturday said a 57-year-old man from Danang who tested positive for COVID-19 had no record of traveling outside the country. Local media reports quoted the official describing that case and three other confirmed infections linked to the city as being "imported to the city of Danang."

But at a government meeting Monday, Long said there is not enough evidence to confirm that the four new cases have the same source of infection, suggesting the possibility of multiple avenues and even that the outbreak may have started in the community. But he stressed that the virus in the newly confirmed patients is a different strain compared with ones already existing in Vietnam, strongly suggesting it came from outside the country.

Following the announcement, critics in both mainstream and social media said Chinese immigrants illegally entering Vietnam by land and skipping necessary prevention measures as well as Vietnamese returning from China should be taken into account as the possible source of the local transmission of the virus.

Vietnam shares land borders with countries including China, Laos and Cambodia. The one with China, where the pandemic originated, stretches more than 1,200 km. Thanks to strict quarantine and aggressive social distancing measures, the Southeast Asian country has managed to keep its virus total to only 420 cases with zero deaths as of Sunday. But it has found a hole in its defenses in the form of illegal immigrants from its neighbors. The new case in Danang ended a run of 99 days with no locally transmitted infections.

Hanoi currently allows international charter flights to bring Vietnamese home from overseas as well as for foreigners entering the country, but all arrivals are required to follow stringent measures to avoid the spread of the virus. So far, new imported cases made public have all been detected at airports. Vietnam requires all people entering the country to stay in mandatory quarantine for 14 days, during which they will be tested for the virus several times. Quarantining and testing are free for everyone.

After medical officials confirmed the new case in Danang, Phuc said at a cabinet meeting in Hanoi on Saturday that authorities must as a deterrent swiftly punish anyone who helps bring immigrants into Vietnam illegally. He also called for immediate prosecutions and fast trials for all cases related to the activities of bringing foreigners to Vietnam illegally and "widely publicize the information to the people."

Phuc also asked his cabinet to stay on high alert. "The Ministry of Public Security and the People's Committees of all provinces and cities have to identify all illegal immigrants to put them under medical surveillance and issue fines to these undocumented immigrants in accordance with current regulations," he said.

The government on Saturday also asked the ministries of national defense and public security to continue with strict border controls, especially at crossings and border gates, with illegal entrants to face stiff penalties.

On Sunday, the Health Ministry reported three more locally transmitted infections, bringing new cases inside the country to four over the weekend. Two of the people are in serious condition.

Danang again imposed social distancing measures from noon on Sunday, banning gatherings of more than 30 people. Residents and visitors are asked to stay 1 meter apart and wear masks in public spaces. The city has canceled all events that draw crowds.

Meanwhile, the capital, Hanoi, requested that people who recently returned from Danang self-isolate at home and report any fevers. Shops selling medicine are required to report those who purchase medicine to relieve fevers.

Authorities are also tracking down everyone who came in contact with the four new patients, three of whom are in the city while one who visited it has returned to Quang Ngai Province, south of Danang. The number who had direct contact rose to more than 200, while those with indirect contact totaled more than 1,000.

Local authorities have been ramping up efforts to crack down on illegal immigrants over the past few months.

On July 5, border guards in Quang Ninh detained five Chinese nationals accused of illegally entering Vietnam to gamble, according to provincial authorities.

On July 19, law enforcement in the town of Dien Ban in Quang Nam Province arrested 21 Chinese who are believed to have entered Vietnam along small paths along the border to seek jobs.

On July 16, up to 24 Chinese nationals were found entering Danang illegally. That forced the city's police to examine 14 local households accommodating foreigners, as well as 374 guesthouses, hotels, home stay locations, rental houses, resorts and apartments in a mass search for Chinese nationals in the city. The mission found two dozen Chinese were staying illegally in the city on Saturday.

Vietnam cannot tolerate even a small number of COVID-19 cases because its health system is fragile and may struggle to handle an explosion of infections, according to a political analyst who declined to be named.

"Hanoi remains on high alert because it needs to avoid the spread of the coronavirus until next January," he said, referring to scheduled voting for key Communist Party, National Assembly and government posts. "Safety, stability and unity before the election are the top priorities of Vietnamese leaders at this time."
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Re: Following the Coronavirus (COVID-19) Outbreak - News and Discussion

Post by Dunderhead » Tue Jul 28, 2020 8:08 pm

Still quoting that mass media as if it were reliable.It is pure entertainment designed to sell advertising. Only those unable to tho k for themselves believe mass media. Of course that is the vast majority. To believe that the rulers of Vietnam are concerned a out anything other than their own self interest is too be a level of stupid I cannot comprehend
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Post by CEOCambodiaNews » Tue Jul 28, 2020 9:41 pm

Regarding the possibility of a second infection of covid-19.
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And many other answers to coronavirus questions here: https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-nc ... tive-Tests
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Post by CEOCambodiaNews » Wed Jul 29, 2020 8:14 am

Covid-19 cases are resurging in Europe, with a big spike in Spain, and gradual but steady increases in Germany, France and Belgium.

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Post by hunter8 » Wed Jul 29, 2020 1:29 pm

An additional 6.7 million children under the age of five could suffer from wasting – and therefore become dangerously undernourished – in 2020 as a result of the socio-economic impact of the COVID-19 pandemic, UNICEF warned today.

https://www.unicef.org/press-releases/u ... e-covid-19

But it’s third world, so who cares, right?
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Post by glennb6 » Wed Jul 29, 2020 1:57 pm

CEOCambodiaNews wrote:
Wed Jul 29, 2020 8:14 am
Covid-19 cases are resurging in Europe, with a big spike in Spain, and gradual but steady increases in Germany, France and Belgium.

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Having read Bloomberg news (https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... -illnesses) says in Italy, 98+% of those that died, were over 80yrs old with 96% having pre-existing serious medical conditions. In simple terms, they were past their expiration date and very sick already. Sorry for them, but it's fact. Guess the 'virus' didn't ravage Italy as the news and govt's would have wanted everyone to believe.

I have zero doubt that that sick old people in all other countries were the primary fatalities.

In ussa which I follow more closely, when reading reports such as motorcycle accident victim died of CV, hospice patients died of CV, people who died in a methlab explosion died of CV, and the stories keep on coming, I have 100% lost believe in ANY news from the main stream media and govt.
Testing - unused tests themselves yield positive results, CDC says if one person tests positive they 'assume' 15+ others are positive due to contacts and count that one positive as 16 positives, and the stories keep on coming.

Lie to me once, shame on you, lie to me twice and it's shame on me for believing anything you say to me ever after.
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Post by clutchcargo » Wed Jul 29, 2020 3:33 pm

Vietnam abruptly evacuated 80,000 tourists and locals from the popular coastal city of Da Nang after 11 people tested positive for the coronavirus

A total of 15 cases have been confirmed since Saturday, with 11 of them confirmed on Monday. It breaks the country’s 99-day streak of having no cases.

The evacuation is an unusual move. Health authorities in most countries favour keeping people in one place to wait out outbreaks. Removing a football stadium’s worth of people is no mean feat, and relocating 80,000 people across the country runs the risk of reintroducing the virus in other cities.

Vietnam dodged a major coronavirus outbreak by stamping out the virus early on. As of Tuesday, it has recorded 431 cases and no deaths.

https://www.businessinsider.com.au/viet ... eak-2020-7
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