Following the Coronavirus (COVID-19) Outbreak - News and Discussion

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Re: Following the Coronavirus (COVID-19) Outbreak - News and Discussion

Post by newkidontheblock » Fri Jul 03, 2020 7:26 am

The goal of a virus is to survive and multiply. Being more virulent (more deadly), is counter to this goal.

Anyways, there is a new strain. Has a spiky part to it. Supposedly this new part is what’s increasing the infection rate among the younger population. Better at spreading, less efficient at quickly killing. But still good at making people sick enough to go to the hospital and intensive care units.

More than likely all the virus will convert to this new strain.

It helps that the younger population tend pull out all the stops to help the virus spread.
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Post by AndyKK » Fri Jul 03, 2020 8:22 am

newkidontheblock wrote:
Fri Jul 03, 2020 7:26 am
The goal of a virus is to survive and multiply. Being more virulent (more deadly), is counter to this goal.

Anyways, there is a new strain. Has a spiky part to it. Supposedly this new part is what’s increasing the infection rate among the younger population. Better at spreading, less efficient at quickly killing. But still good at making people sick enough to go to the hospital and intensive care units.

More than likely all the virus will convert to this new strain.

It helps that the younger population tend pull out all the stops to help the virus spread.
Lets hope not for this country, being majority are of the younger generation, although the last two were, the youngest being 15 years old. With the flights coming in regular to Cambodia, and supposable the people on the flights tested on arrival and then put into the 14 day quarantine, we don't seem to here much about the outcome or numbers. I would hope we are not hearing because all is going smoothly.
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Re: Following the Coronavirus (COVID-19) Outbreak - News and Discussion

Post by clutchcargo » Wed Jul 08, 2020 6:35 pm

This might challenge some who believe in the concept of 'herd immunity'..

Coronavirus herd immunity may be 'unachievable' after study suggests antibodies disappear after weeks in some people

A major new study in one of Europe’s worst affected countries for the coronavirus finds no evidence of widespread immunity to the virus developing. “Immunity can be incomplete, it can be transitory, it can last for just a short time and then disappear,” Raquel Yotti, the director of Spain’s Carlos III Health Institute, said. Another scientist involved said: “In light of these findings, any proposed approach to achieve herd immunity through natural infection is not only highly unethical, but also unachievable.”

https://www.businessinsider.com.au/coro ... ain-2020-7
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Post by CEOCambodiaNews » Thu Jul 09, 2020 12:13 pm

COVID-19 in Asean: update for July 9 — new records in Philippines & Indonesia as global infections top 12 mln
By John Le Fevre on July 9, 2020

As of 00:38 GMT July 9 there was 73,769 active cases of COVID-19 throughout the 10 Asean member countries, an increase of 3,108, or 4.40 per cent, on the day prior. Of this 219, or 0.30 per cent, are regarded as serious or critical. An additional 1,340** people were discharged or marked as recovered.

Indonesia continued to record the most number of COVID-19 deaths in Asean yesterday with 50, taking COVID-19 related fatalities there to 3,359, while 1,853 new infections, a new daily record for Indonesia, pushed the active caseload to 33,135, on the back of 800 people being declared as recovered.

In the Philippines five fatalities yesterday saw COVID-19 deaths there rise to 1,314, while 2,486 new cases, a new daily record for the Philippines, pushed the active caseload to 36,457, of which 213 are regarded as serious or critical. Following treatment 202 people were declared as recovered.

There were no other COVID-19 deaths recorded throughout Asean yesterday.
https://aecnewstoday.com/2020/covid-19- ... or-july-9/
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Post by Doc67 » Thu Jul 09, 2020 12:19 pm

clutchcargo wrote:
Wed Jul 08, 2020 6:35 pm
This might challenge some who believe in the concept of 'herd immunity'..

Coronavirus herd immunity may be 'unachievable' after study suggests antibodies disappear after weeks in some people

A major new study in one of Europe’s worst affected countries for the coronavirus finds no evidence of widespread immunity to the virus developing. “Immunity can be incomplete, it can be transitory, it can last for just a short time and then disappear,” Raquel Yotti, the director of Spain’s Carlos III Health Institute, said. Another scientist involved said: “In light of these findings, any proposed approach to achieve herd immunity through natural infection is not only highly unethical, but also unachievable.”

https://www.businessinsider.com.au/coro ... ain-2020-7
That doesn't bode well for a vaccine either, the purpose of which is to create antibodies in preparation of exposure to the real thing. If they disappear in a short period you'd need to be getting shots every 3 months.

I think we may be doomed.
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Post by clutchcargo » Thu Jul 09, 2020 12:31 pm

Doc67 wrote:
Thu Jul 09, 2020 12:19 pm
clutchcargo wrote:
Wed Jul 08, 2020 6:35 pm
This might challenge some who believe in the concept of 'herd immunity'..

Coronavirus herd immunity may be 'unachievable' after study suggests antibodies disappear after weeks in some people

A major new study in one of Europe’s worst affected countries for the coronavirus finds no evidence of widespread immunity to the virus developing. “Immunity can be incomplete, it can be transitory, it can last for just a short time and then disappear,” Raquel Yotti, the director of Spain’s Carlos III Health Institute, said. Another scientist involved said: “In light of these findings, any proposed approach to achieve herd immunity through natural infection is not only highly unethical, but also unachievable.”

https://www.businessinsider.com.au/coro ... ain-2020-7
That doesn't bode well for a vaccine either, the purpose of which is to create antibodies in preparation of exposure to the real thing. If they disappear in a short period you'd need to be getting shots every 3 months.

I think we may be doomed.
This is probably why some are saying there may never be an effective vaccine. As is the case with HIV and Dengue for example.

Then again, the world is marshalling all it's resources like never before so one can nevertheless be positive. It's also possible that better viral treatments wil be developed..even without a vaccine.
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Post by SternAAlbifrons » Thu Jul 09, 2020 1:59 pm

HIV resulted in absolutely huge advances in knowledge, treatment and vaccines for viruses.
Given that the financial incentives for a vaccine and treatments for this virus will be so much stronger, we will probably/hopefully get something game changing before too long.
Fingers crossed anyway.
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Post by ExPenhMan » Thu Jul 09, 2020 2:19 pm

I have watched a lot of Dr. John Campbell's videos over the last two months. They are thorough, educational, using high quality study sources and based on his experience working in a British hospital "A and E", which means "accident and emergency" medicine. He also has a PhD.

He's done numerous videos on the growing positive reports on the effects of good Vitamin D levels. In summary, people with INsufficient Vitamin D levels are more prone to respiratory tract infection, and 7 times more likely to die. People with DEficiency (more severe) are 10 times more likely likely to die. He supplies all the study and supplementary links in his YouTube posts.

Also notes standard science that dark skin people tend to have very low Vit D, brown skin people somewhat lower Vit D levels and white skin people tend to but don't always have decent levels because of the fact we hibernate in winter and get little to no sun. Hence the need to take vitamin D supplements running a minimum 25 to 50 micrograms (1000 to 2000 IUs).

This vid below sums up all the current knowledge and runs 31 minutes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qyMFsLFAE5o&t=495s
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Re: Following the Coronavirus (COVID-19) Outbreak - News and Discussion

Post by CEOCambodiaNews » Thu Jul 09, 2020 9:29 pm

Coronavirus report: global cases pass 12m as US daily tally breaks world record
Infections globally rising by a million a week; US reports 60,000 cases in a day; Trump rally and protests in Tulsa ‘likely contributed’ to surge
Last modified on Thu 9 Jul 2020 10.35 BST

The number of confirmed coronavirus infections worldwide passed 12 million on Thursday, as cases continue to grow by roughly one million a week. Thursday’s milestone was spurred by the United States recording the highest one-day increase in cases anywhere in the world since the pandemic began, with just over 60,000 cases reported in 24 hours, according to the Johns Hopkins University tracker.

The US, with a total of 3 million cases and 132,299 deaths, accounts for roughly a quarter of the world’s 12,012,720 cases and 548,914 deaths.
More on global cases here: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/ ... rld-record
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Post by phuketrichard » Fri Jul 10, 2020 7:44 am

with 60,000+ cases /day now on Tuesday in the states, i guess having a US passport, once things open, will no longer be as worthwhile as it was before LOL
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