Following the Coronavirus (COVID-19) Outbreak - News and Discussion

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SternAAlbifrons wrote: Thu May 28, 2020 4:32 am
God'sGift wrote: Wed May 27, 2020 3:52 pm their percentage is roughly the same as UK, which has had complete stasi-style lockdown - hence, lockdown does not make a jack shit of a difference!
Dear USA and most of Europe (mainly directed to)
A poorly planned, badly executed, late, ad-hoc lockdown has obviously not worked so well.
But where it has been done effectively, as demonstrated in a number of countries, the death rate has been negligible.
AND the damage to the economy has also be minimised.

Don't blame failed lockdowns (or even China) - blame your own shitty craven corrupt leadership, your broken social compact, your replacement of human values with economic indicators, and your own self-disempowered citizenry for all your unnecessary deaths and the worst effects on your economy.

If this experience has not rocked your faith in your leaderships then God help us all. What could be a more stark example of sheer ineptitude and a totally broken system?
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(imo only, after waking up on the wrong side the bed - obviously :mrgreen: )

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Duncan wrote: Thu May 28, 2020 4:59 am
SternAAlbifrons wrote: Thu May 28, 2020 4:32 am
(imo only, after waking up on the wrong side the bed - obviously :mrgreen: )

Confucius says,,,,,,, If your bed has sides , you live too high.
Sorry Dunc, should read
"I slipped off the wrong edge of my foul smelly foam rubber mattress onto the chipped, broken and cracked concrete floor 2 inches below"

Do i get my lefty/greenie cred back now?
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i see lots of
"they did this wrong, never should have locked down, did this to late, should open up, the leaders are no good, corrupt etc etc.."

BUT it seems out of 190 or so odd countries someone has tried everything, ( from Sweden to Sinagpre to Japan to USA)
nowhere has anyone been entirely successful
so all u keyboard warriors that keep using the blame game, (yet I see no drs or "leaders" on this forum)


what would you have done differently ?

passed 100,000 deaths in the states>

all i can say, is we should have ( and should continue to) listet to the drs
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doctors are generally of the 'lock society up and throw away the key' mentality - often haughty and arrogant

Just like that dickhead Ferguson in UK, who predicted 500K deaths and clamoured for enforced lockdown, whilst he of course got to break it by needing to get laid by someone else's woman!
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finish_money wrote: Tue May 26, 2020 9:37 pm 'The price you pay': Sweden's 'herd immunity' experiment backfires

https://www.sfgate.com/news/editorspick ... 289437.php
No. The price you pay is, as just one example, £300 billion budget deficit in the UK instead of the projected one of £55 Billion at the start of March. Repeat this all around the world. And this is just for this year.

Below is the actual deaths per million globally. No 7 day rolling average taken out of context to try to smear Sweden , as has been the game ever since they refused to follow the herd over the cliff. Every country in the top ten have put their economies into a coma and they are now struggling to revive them.

That's the price we are paying.

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Electric Earth wrote: Wed May 27, 2020 3:46 pm
God'sGift wrote: Wed May 27, 2020 3:34 pm approx 4K deaths in Sweden so far - that's way LOWER than many countries - so wtf are u talking about???
What's their percentage based on their total population? A country with 40 people can only have 40 deaths. Does that mean they have the best plan ever because only 40 people died? :facepalm:
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One lesson should be learnt by the world. The next time China freaks out and start locking people up in their homes and arresting doctors, the whole world should quarantine them, the same day. Seals the borders and stop all flights in and out. And country that doesn't want to join in (Cambodia) they can have isolation too. Then we can wait a while a see how it pans out.
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God'sGift wrote: Wed May 27, 2020 3:34 pm approx 4K deaths in Sweden so far - that's way LOWER than many countries - so wtf are u talking about???
Sweden is extremely large with a relatively small population, outside a few urban centers people have been distancing for centuries. Comparing their numbers to densely populated countries is useless.
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Doc67 wrote: Thu May 28, 2020 4:25 pm One lesson should be learnt by the world. The next time China freaks out and start locking people up in their homes and arresting doctors, the whole world should quarantine them, the same day. Seals the borders and stop all flights in and out. And country that doesn't want to join in (Cambodia) they can have isolation too. Then we can wait a while a see how it pans out.
I'd like to see something similar to the United Nations Atomic Energy Commission being created to police any country suspected of developing biological warfare from now on. And with this agency should come the ability for them to place trade sanctions and worse should those countries not comply with inspections or have any sort of biological "accident".
The idea that seeing the world is going from place to place to look at obvious things is an illusion natural to dull minds.
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Kammekor wrote: Thu May 28, 2020 4:28 pm
God'sGift wrote: Wed May 27, 2020 3:34 pm approx 4K deaths in Sweden so far - that's way LOWER than many countries - so wtf are u talking about???
Sweden is extremely large with a relatively small population, outside a few urban centers people have been distancing for centuries. Comparing their numbers to densely populated countries is useless.
Please explain Japan then? No lockdown. Old population. Densely populated. 126 million people. 858 deaths. 6.78 per million

Italy & France 126 Million 61,000 deaths 484 deaths per million

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