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UK on lockdown for another 3 weeks (6th of may i think they said)
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COVID-19 and smoking: A systematic review of the evidence Constantine Vardavas, Katerina Nikitara Published online 2020 Mar 20.

However, as the pandemic is still unfortunately under progression, there are limited data with regard to the clinical characteristics of the patients as well as to their prognostic factors4. Smoking, to date, has been assumed to be possibly associated with adverse disease prognosis, as extensive evidence has highlighted the negative impact of tobacco use on lung health and its causal association with a plethora of respiratory diseases5. Smoking is also detrimental to the immune system and its responsiveness to infections, making smokers more vulnerable to infectious diseases6. Previous studies have shown that smokers are twice more likely than non-smokers to contract influenza and have more severe symptoms, while smokers were also noted to have higher mortality in the previous MERS-CoV outbreak7,8


We identified five studies that reported data on the smoking status of patients infected with COVID-19. Notably, in the largest study that assessed severity, there were higher percentages of current and former smokers among patients that needed ICU support, mechanical ventilation or who had died, and a higher percentage of smokers among the severe cases12. However, from their published data we can calculate that the smokers were 1.4 times more likely (RR=1.4, 95% CI: 0.98–2.00) to have severe symptoms of COVID-19 and approximately 2.4 times more likely to be admitted to an ICU, need mechanical ventilation or die compared to non-smokers (RR=2.4, 95% CI: 1.43–4.04).

In conclusion, although further research is warranted as the weight of the evidence increases, with the limited available data, and although the above results are unadjusted for other factors that may impact disease progression, smoking is most likely associated with the negative progression and adverse outcomes of COVID-19.
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Jamie_Lambo wrote: Tue Apr 14, 2020 3:33 pm UK on lockdown for another 3 weeks (6th of may i think they said)
where's that been announced?
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Doc67 wrote: Tue Apr 14, 2020 3:38 pm
Jamie_Lambo wrote: Tue Apr 14, 2020 3:33 pm UK on lockdown for another 3 weeks (6th of may i think they said)
where's that been announced?
its not had an official announcement but its now common knowledge
just google "UK lockdown 7th May"
Dominic Raab, who is deputising for Boris Johnson, will announce on Thursday that the lockdown will stay in place until at least May 7.
Coronavirus UK lockdown: Government poised to announce three week extension
Cabinet minister Therese Coffey warned the war against Covid-19 will take 'months not weeks' as the UK prepares for a lockdown announcement on Thursday - which could extend it to at least May 7
Lockdown 'will last until at least May 7': Dominic Raab 'to tell country on Thursday they face another three weeks of coronavirus restrictions' with the pandemic peak still days away
Lockdown to last until at least May 7 as UK still hasn't hit coronavirus peak
DOMINIC RAAB is expected to tell the country this week the current lockdown will be extended until at least May 7.
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Jamie_Lambo wrote: Tue Apr 14, 2020 5:03 pm
Doc67 wrote: Tue Apr 14, 2020 3:38 pm
Jamie_Lambo wrote: Tue Apr 14, 2020 3:33 pm UK on lockdown for another 3 weeks (6th of may i think they said)
where's that been announced?
its not had an official announcement but its now common knowledge
just google "UK lockdown 7th May"
Dominic Raab, who is deputising for Boris Johnson, will announce on Thursday that the lockdown will stay in place until at least May 7.
Coronavirus UK lockdown: Government poised to announce three week extension
Cabinet minister Therese Coffey warned the war against Covid-19 will take 'months not weeks' as the UK prepares for a lockdown announcement on Thursday - which could extend it to at least May 7
Lockdown 'will last until at least May 7': Dominic Raab 'to tell country on Thursday they face another three weeks of coronavirus restrictions' with the pandemic peak still days away
Lockdown to last until at least May 7 as UK still hasn't hit coronavirus peak
DOMINIC RAAB is expected to tell the country this week the current lockdown will be extended until at least May 7.
Yeah, it's popping up now, another 3 weeks. Hardly a surprise, maybe they can keep things under control until then. There's a lot of people running out of money and nothing from the government yet.

I can't see pubs opening on the 7th. All that shoulder to shoulder at the bar ordering drinks - that can't happen for a long while. Maybe table service only or beer gardens only. Maybe with the bar as a walk up at one end, order and pay and get a number, and collect at the other end. Nobody's going to want to get too close to anyone.
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Doc67 wrote: Tue Apr 14, 2020 5:40 pm Yeah, it's popping up now, another 3 weeks. Hardly a surprise, maybe they can keep things under control until then. There's a lot of people running out of money and nothing from the government yet.

I can't see pubs opening on the 7th. All that shoulder to shoulder at the bar ordering drinks - that can't happen for a long while. Maybe table service only or beer gardens only. Maybe with the bar as a walk up at one end, order and pay and get a number, and collect at the other end. Nobody's going to want to get too close to anyone.
A question to keep you occupied.... I actually made the calculations today....

What would be the diameter of a round (standing) table, being able to serve 6 people at a time while adhering the 1,5 meter (5 ft?) social distancing rule in every direction?

And how many of those round table would you be able to 'squeeze' in a 10 x 10 meter room while adhering the same rule?

And finally.... How much profit would the establishment make in this siruation?
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If keeping 1,5 meter distance will be the new norm indefinitely, then you might as well kill all of mankind.
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frizzie77 wrote: Tue Apr 14, 2020 5:52 pm If keeping 1,5 meter distance will be the new norm indefinitely, then you might as well kill all of mankind.
IMHO
0 points, not an answer to the question.

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Whether you like it or not, it will be the norm for a while. How long do think it will the norm? Not asking if you agree, just asking how long you think.
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If the virus kills off too many old people Weatherspoons will go skint, but on the other hand Weatherspoon pubs always seems to have loads of old men all sitting alone at tables ?
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