Noam Chomsky: Trump Is Willing to Dismantle Democracy to Hold On to Power

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Noam Chomsky: Trump Is Willing to Dismantle Democracy to Hold On to Power

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Good read;
While it’s still too early to predict the likely outcome of the November 2020 presidential election, Donald Trump continues to fall behind in national polls while pulling dirty electoral tricks in the hope of defeating Democratic challenger Joe Biden. Much of Trump’s hope for victory rests with his “law and order” campaign, which promotes lies about mail-in-voting fraud in order to preemptively discredit the election results if they are in Biden’s favor. In this exclusive interview for Truthout, Noam Chomsky discusses the national and international significance of Trump’s refusal to commit to a “peaceful transition to power” and his reliance on conspiracy theories.
In general, no stone is left unturned in Trump’s campaign to dismantle democratic forms and hold on to power.
Perhaps there is some slight comfort in the fact that we are not alone. Other major democracies are also decaying, also falling into the hands of leaders with traits of fascism, if not the ideologies (many, including leading scholars of fascism, regard this characterization of Trump as much too charitable).

The world’s largest democracy, India, is now run by a Trump-style wrecker, Narendra Modi, who is destroying Indian secular democracy and turning India into a cruel ethnocracy, while also crushing Kashmir.

The world’s oldest democracy, Britain, has not approached Trump’s demolition job, but Prime Minister Boris Johnson is trying to join the club. His dismissal of Parliament so that he could ram through his version of Brexit, quickly overturned by the Supreme Court, caused outrage in British legal circles, with charges that he was undermining the presumption of good faith on which the British constitutional order has rested for centuries. He has since moved on to violating international law — admittedly, but only “a little bit” — by reversing a crucial provision of the agreement he had just reached with the EU, which is now suing Britain for this breach.
https://truthout.org/articles/noam-chom ... -to-power/

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“Peaceful transition of power” ..... do you really believe the left will concede defeat gracefully if they lose?

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IraHayes wrote: Tue Oct 13, 2020 9:37 am “Peaceful transition of power” ..... do you really believe the left will concede defeat gracefully if they lose?
They're still complaining the last election was fraudulent. Blah blah Russia.
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Big Daikon wrote: Tue Oct 13, 2020 9:41 am
IraHayes wrote: Tue Oct 13, 2020 9:37 am “Peaceful transition of power” ..... do you really believe the left will concede defeat gracefully if they lose?
They're still complaining the last election was fraudulent. Blah blah Russia.
And since Trump approved the declassification of CIA documents we know that Clintons foreign policy advisor told her to use the Russia hoax to vilify Trump and distract the public from her email investigations.
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Fucking hell, still ranting on about Hillary Clinton like she's in any way relevant anymore and the past 4 years didn't happen.
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John Bingham wrote: Tue Oct 13, 2020 10:04 am Fucking hell, still ranting on about Hillary Clinton like she's in any way relevant anymore and the past 4 years didn't happen.
The other thread is going on about Christopher Columbus. He's been dead for years.
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IraHayes wrote: Tue Oct 13, 2020 9:44 am
Big Daikon wrote: Tue Oct 13, 2020 9:41 am
IraHayes wrote: Tue Oct 13, 2020 9:37 am “Peaceful transition of power” ..... do you really believe the left will concede defeat gracefully if they lose?
They're still complaining the last election was fraudulent. Blah blah Russia.
And since Trump approved the declassification of CIA documents we know that Clintons foreign policy advisor told her to use the Russia hoax to vilify Trump and distract the public from her email investigations.
Comey ( fbi director at the time) was the one that basically got Trump elected cause
he investigated Clintons emails and cleared her.
than less than a week before election reopened the investigation cause more emails came to light, ( whihc she was cleared again of)

He was than FIRED by Trump for continuing the Russian interference investigation, ( along with most of his team investigating)

Trump will have no choice come Jan 20th, but too walk away....either peacefully or in handcuffs
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I think this whole "refuse to leave" drama is just being used to mobilize voters - by both sides. Realistically, there's no way NOT to leave if you don't have the votes. Individual results will surely be disputed, but the procedures in place to resolve such disputes will work as per usual and there won't be any deadlock.
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I think Trump was doing his non-committal bit, with a scoop of troll, on that one.

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IraHayes wrote: Tue Oct 13, 2020 9:37 am “Peaceful transition of power” ..... do you really believe the left will concede defeat gracefully if they lose?

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No, but the only gun most of them have access to is a bidet
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