Damn they are some damning stats although the deaths are people dying with covid not of covid, even if they died of a car crash or cancer it would still be a covid statistic, i still don’t understand why they record and report the deaths the way they do but it sure sounds scary


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On a positive note both my parents recovered from their covid even though they are both around 60 n me mam had recently had cancer and also pneumonia and was a “vulnerable” who works at the hospital,
she is still suffering with some of the long term covid effects like fatigue n shortness of breath but shes a northern gal who is a fighter and was back at work on the front line 10days later

Shes also had her vaccine jab the other day too


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https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.ft.com ... 1d328c6700

Excess deaths also just passed 100k since the start of the pandemic. 20% higher than the average year

Doc67 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 7:53 am

Bubble T wrote: ↑Tue Jan 19, 2021 8:01 pm

Freightdog wrote: ↑Tue Jan 19, 2021 7:57 pm Would someone please reliably inform me that its not possible to return to the UK from Asia at the present?

We're supposed to be leaving this week, booked our tickets a couple of days ago when the visa came through. Will update here on how it goes.

What route are you taking?

Singapore. We've double checked and the flights are still operating.

'Absolute carnage': EU hauliers reject UK jobs over Brexit rules

Freight company director blames new requirement for EU transport firms to provide VAT and tariff guarantees . Many Freightcompanies unwilling to transport goods from the EU to the UK because of much higher costs and logistics.
Apart from Foodstuff now Textiles and other goods don't make it to the shelfs in Britains Stores anymore.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... exit-rules

UK's New Global Health Insurance

If you are British this news may have some significance for you:
https://www.madeiraislandnews.com/2021/ ... -card.html

Doc67 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 7:52 am

emm wrote: ↑Tue Jan 19, 2021 2:51 pm UK has a backbench rebellion coming up. This time it's to accuse the Chinese Government of "Genocide" of it's Uighur Muslim People. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/ ... trade-bill

Great defenders of Human Rights which should be applauded IF: they would also condemn:

British Amritsar Massacre 100 years ago
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jallianwala_Bagh_massacre

The ongoing slow motion Genocide of the Palestinians by Israel
https://prepareforchange.net/2019/06/20 ... ince-1948/

Heads up gentlemen, we have a trespasser. He's found our little village and is now throwing stones at our windows.

Shall we release the hounds?

He forgot to mention what the British have done to the Costa Del Sol, Fish and chip shops, full english breakfast everywhere, watneys red barrel in english pubs, and all you can drink sangria nights, the place has been ruined

Some say it all started with Vasco de Garma,
i go back further. St Patrick's discovery of the New World
- nobody wrecks a foreign land like the Irish abroad.

UK COVID-19 News from the Guardian tonight:

11m ago 18:35
Evening summary

There is ‘some evidence’ that the new variant of the coronavirus first identified in London and the South East may be associated with a higher degree of mortality, Boris Johnson said. For men in their 60’s that means an increase from roughly 10 in 1,000 deaths to about 13-14 deaths. Chris Whitty and Patrick Vallance stressed there are many caveats and a lot of uncertainty around this, with some reports finding no increased risk at all, so more research is needed. Scientists are fairly confident that the new variant is between 30-70% more transmissible than the original. Current evidence shows that both vaccines are effective against both the old and the new variant. More research is needed into whether the South African and Brazilian variants could be less susceptible to vaccines.

The government can’t consider unlocking while case numbers are so high until the vaccine is working and it’s sure the new variants aren’t more deadly or transmissible, the prime minister said. Johnson also said he didn’t want to risk another rebound with the virus, where infections spiral and restrictions have to be toughened as has been the case after ever lockdown so far. Johnson’s thinking is there is a need to be extra cautious about lifting restrictions. He is under great pressure from his own backbenchers about relaxing restrictions once the most vulnerable have been vaccinated.

The number of people in hospitals in the UK is 78% higher than during the first peak in April, though that increase is now flattening out in some parts of the country. Chris Whitty said the reduction of cases in hospital and deaths will take a while yet and warned that incidence of the virus remains “extraordinarily high”.

5.4m first doses of the vaccine have now been given, with a record 400,000 administered in the last 24 hours. Overall 1 in 10 adults in England have now been vaccinated, including 71% of the over-80s and two-thirds of care home residents. 151,000 vaccinations have been done in Northern Ireland, 358,000 in Scotland and 212,000 in Wales. The prime minister said the government remains confident in its goal of giving a first dose of the vaccine to everyone in the top four priority groups by the end of February.

The R value of Covid-19 transmission has fallen and is now estimated to be between 0.8 and 1 across the UK, according to Sage. Sage scientists said: “It is essential that everyone continues to stay at home, whether they have had the vaccine or not. We all need to play our part, and if everyone continues to follow the rules, we can expect to drive down the R number across the country.”
A further 1,401 people died within 28 days of testing positive for Covid-19, bringing the total to 95,981, according to government data.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/ ... ers-travel