Is Kim Jong Un dead?

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SternAAlbifrons wrote: Wed Jul 08, 2020 9:11 am chuckle

Enjoy your day, ivory man.
Still buying? Still advertising?

Chuckle is all you can do brother- :popcorn: except prove me wrong of course that you're not consumed with thoughts of my country. :assasin:

I'm going to take the time to chat with you. You remind me of a lot of millennials which I feel sorry for. Many seem lost or choose to ignore their nature just like you. You forgot where the meat you eat comes from. You seem to love wildlife- know why? You were once a part of the food chain in nature.

Do you truly think I'll feel bad because I think ivory is beautiful? Come one. Hundreds of thousands of tons have been sold for more than a millennia. I couldn't have possibly bought all of that myself now could I? The history and money in ivory tells me I'm not the only one who finds the cross-hatching beautiful especially after it has a golden patina. BTW, I just recently learned to appreciate ivory you must view it up close. 6 months ago, I would have told you that I didn't understand why people liked ivory throughout history.

Thanks for asking though, yes. I made a nice score on a very rare 19th-century cloisonne tool holder 2 days ago on eBay. The guy selling it had no idea what it was. I paid $45 +5 shipping. If I decided to sell it, it would fetch an easy $400. I'm "tickled" as my father used to say.

As far as buying anything Ivory- don't fret buddy. It's all from the 1800s. They (humans anyhow) cannot replicate a 200-year-old pipe with opium stained ivory endpieces to a trained eye no matter how much they try.
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Is it possible to harvest ivory without killing elephants?


When the buying stops, the killing can too.
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Misleading ^^^
You advertised to buy ivory, seperately to the opium pipe inquiery.
"... pipes. Also small ivory peices" or similar wording from memory.

It does not matter a flying flock how old it is, or if it is stained with opium or not - buying and selling any ivory is still a crime in Cambodia.
It is your responsibility to know that, ignorance is a lousy excuse in this day and age.
Everybody knows there are strict laws about ivory everywhere, if you are in the biz of buying it, is highly irresponsible not to be really clear on exactly what those laws are.

I do not expect you to apogise for appreciating ivory, most people do.
But maybe apogise to Cambodia for breaking the law. And to elephants for coverting their body parts as collectables.
But that is entirely up to you.

If you think banning the sale of old ivory is wrong, i suggest you also aquaint yourself on the solidly based conservation reasons for the efforts to ban this practice everywhere.
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Ravensnest wrote: Wed Jul 08, 2020 10:23 amI'm going to take the time to chat with you. You remind me of a lot of millennials which I feel sorry for. Many seem lost or choose to ignore their nature just like you. You forgot where the meat you eat comes from. You seem to love wildlife- know why? You were once a part of the food chain in nature.
You're not supposed to take pride in still "acting like an animal." NOT doing that is what's Supposed to separate us from the "dumb" animals. And I'm not referring to eating meat. I'm referring to things like thinking that humans should extinct elephants because of greed or because they think their tusks are pretty. That isn't something you should be proud of. You should be ashamed of yourself for thinking that's OK.

And loving wildlife has nothing to do with being part of the food chain. What a silly thing to say.
Do you think the parents of baby boomers whined so much when the boomers started changing society? And yet the whiney ones like to call young people "snowflakes." Hmm...
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Electric Earth wrote: Wed Jul 08, 2020 10:51 am

You're not supposed to take pride in still "acting like an animal." NOT doing that is what's Supposed to separate us from the "dumb" animals. And I'm not referring to eating meat. I'm referring to things like thinking that humans should extinct elephants because of greed or because they think their tusks are pretty. That isn't something you should be proud of. You should be ashamed of yourself for thinking that's OK.
SternAAA and I have a sort of "unpleasant history" being on this site. My words and meaning of that post were partially a continuation from his previous CEO posts/ threads.

I certainly do not see where I made any comment where I condone killing elephants for ivory. I didn't expect someone to perceive it in that way or I would have edited it. For the poachers today- I believe an eye for an eye to match their victims. If they maim an animal's foot- the poacher's foot is removed painfully, they slaughter an elephant or other protected animal- they meet a firing line. I wish I had a time machine to go back to stop hunters from slaughtering them. Sadly most all of the animals in Africa are in reserves, from what I read and see. They tranquilize them and other species if they seem to need medical care or for check-ups too. I don't understand why they do not periodically tranq them and saw their tusks off to protect them like they have started doing with Rhinos.

As far as how I view old ivory- pieces can be researched and or have sound documentation proving how or when it was collected. Others can be "roughly" dated by someone with a trained eye. In any event, there is a lot of old ivory and the trade is huge in the antique industry. In my opinion, I'd rather see old pieces cherished by someone rather than burned and the animal died for absolutely nothing. Since I've learned about ivory, I love elephants even more. I think it's something else amazing about them, another way to appreciate them.
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Ravensnest wrote: Wed Jul 08, 2020 12:49 pm
SternAAA and I have a sort of "unpleasant history" being on this site. My words and meaning of that post were partially a continuation from his previous CEO posts/ threads.

I certainly do not see where I made any comment where I condone killing elephants for ivory. I didn't expect someone to perceive it in that way or I would have edited it.

As far as how I view old ivory- pieces can be researched and or have sound documentation proving how or when it was collected. Others can be "roughly" dated by someone with a trained eye. In any event, there is a lot of old ivory and the trade is huge in the antique industry. In my opinion, I'd rather see old pieces cherished by someone rather than burned and the animal died for absolutely nothing. Since I've learned about ivory, I love elephants even more. I think it's something else amazing about them, another way to appreciate them.
Fair enough. Just reading it based on the "ignoring your nature - forgot where your meat comes from - you love wildlife because you were part of the food chain" stuff followed directly with all of the elephant ivory stuff - It seemed like you were somehow connecting it/using it as an example, and saying that killing elephants for their ivory is part of our nature and you felt that it's OK and is a defensible action. Seemed pretty fucked...

I still disagree with the ivory trade simply on the basis that it drives poachers to get more ivory, but good to know you're not a soulless goon. :beer3:
Do you think the parents of baby boomers whined so much when the boomers started changing society? And yet the whiney ones like to call young people "snowflakes." Hmm...
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xandreu wrote: Wed Jul 08, 2020 10:07 am If it wasn't for daddy leaving him an entire country to play with, Kim Wrong 'Un would be a shift worker in a big bakery, working 60 hour weeks, quiet and unassuming, few friends if any, and still living at home as an only child with his divorced mum who forced him to take the bakery job while facing eviction.

He has all the leadership qualities of a small water biscuit.
he has the qualities of a water biscuit. ha ha ha I appreciate the laugh..... thanks!
When i cant remember his name. i say "who flung dung" and most people know straight away who i am talking about!
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If Kim has been knocked off, I wouldn’t put it past his Ice Maiden sister.
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So ? :popcorn: Is he dead or not ? Or is he dead and preserved in ivory with an everyready battery ?
And how the hell did this thread get so off-track ? (Even for CEO lol.)
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North Korea is in mourning today with the death of their Beloved leader Kim Jong Il.
It is believed that his som, the young Kim Jong Un will automatically become the new Beloved Leader of this glorious little peoples democracy.

It will not be an easy task for the lad - he has some big women's sunglasses to fill.
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