Japan lifts military's 60-year-old ban on fighting abroad

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Japan lifts military's 60-year-old ban on fighting abroad

Post by Bitte_Kein_Lexus » Thu Jul 03, 2014 7:35 am

From a friend's Facebook page:

Interesting shift... A few SEA countries are probably happy about this.


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Japan took a historic step away from its post-war pacifism on Tuesday by ending a ban that has kept the military from fighting abroad since 1945, a victory for Prime Minister Shinzo Abe but a move that has riled China and worries many Japanese voters. The change, the most dramatic shift in policy since Japan set up its post-war armed forces 60 years ago, will widen Japan's military options by ending the ban on exercising "collective self-defence," or aiding a friendly country under attack.

Abe's cabinet adopted a resolution outlining the shift, which also relaxes limits on activities in UN-led peace-keeping operations and "grey zone" incidents short of full-scale war, Defence Minister Itsunori Onodera told reporters. Long constrained by the post-war constitution, Japan's armed forces will become more aligned with the militaries of other advanced nations in terms of its options. However, the government will be wary of putting boots on the ground in multilateral operations such as the 2003 U.S.-led invasion of Iraq. Abe repeated that stance on Tuesday, while stressing Japan had to respond to an increasingly tough security environment.

"There is no change in the general principle that we cannot send troops overseas," Abe told a televised news conference, flanked by a poster showing Japanese mothers and infants fleeing a theoretical combat zone on a U.S. vessel under attack. Japan's Prime Minister Shinzo Abe has pushed to end a ban that has kept the military from fighting abroad since World War Two.

The United States, which defeated Japan in the Second World War then became its close ally with a security co-operation treaty, welcomed the Japanese move. "We have followed with interest the extensive discussion within Japan on the issue of exercising its right under the UN Charter to collective self-defence," State Department spokeswoman Marie Harf told a regular news briefing. "The U.S.-Japan alliance is one of our most important security partnerships and we value efforts by Japan to strengthen that security co-operation," she said. However, the new policy has angered an increasingly assertive China, whose ties with Japan have frayed due to a maritime row, mistrust and the legacy of Japan's past military aggression. "China opposes the Japanese fabricating the China threat to promote its domestic political agenda," Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesman Hong Lei told a news conference in Beijing. "We demand that Japan respect the reasonable security concerns of its Asian neighbours and prudently handle the relevant matter." Abe's advisers have said Tokyo should take no action involving a friendly country without that country's consent.

The shift, however, will be welcomed by Washington, which has long urged Tokyo to become a more equal alliance partner, and by Southeast Asia nations that also have rows with China. Conservatives say the constitution's war-renouncing Article 9 has limited Japan's ability to defend itself and that a changing regional power balance, including a rising China, means policies must be more flexible. Abe, who took office in 2012 promising to revive Japan's economy and bolster its security posture, has pushed for the change - which revises a longstanding government interpretation of the charter — despite wariness among ordinary Japanese. Some voters worry about entanglement in foreign wars and others are angry at what they see as a gutting of Article 9 by ignoring formal amendment procedures. The charter has never been revised since it was adopted after Japan's 1945 defeat.

On Sunday, a man set himself on fire near a busy Tokyo intersection — a rare form of protest in Japan — after speaking out against Abe's re-interpretation of Article 9. While Abe spoke, thousands of protesters, including pensioners, housewives and employees just leaving work, gathered near the premier's office carrying banners and shouting, "Don't destroy Article 9", "We're against war" and "No more Abe". Legal revisions to implement the change must be approved by parliament and restrictions could be imposed in the process.

Since its 1945 defeat, Japan's military has not engaged in combat. Past governments have stretched the constitution's limits to develop a military now on par with that of France and to permit non-combat missions abroad, but its armed forces remain far more constrained legally than those of other nations. China has already argued that Japan is raising regional tensions and seeks to back its case by pointing to Abe's efforts to cast Tokyo's wartime past with a less apologetic tone. "It makes it easier for competitors to paint Japan as a wolf in sheep's clothing," said Richard Samuels, director of the Center for International Studies at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology. But he added: "Just because Japan is strong does not mean that it will be aggressive."
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Re: Japan lifts military's 60-year-old ban on fighting abroa

Post by Soi Dog » Thu Jul 03, 2014 7:40 am

As aggressive as China is becoming in the region, Japan will almost certainly feel the need for a nuclear weapon deterrent...and not just Fukushima reactor toxic winds.
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Re: Japan lifts military's 60-year-old ban on fighting abroa

Post by Sailorman » Fri Jul 04, 2014 9:49 am

Good, lets close down the US bases and bring our troops back to American soil since the Japs can defend themselves. This would save Americans billions of dollars a year and we could use the troops to secure the US southern border from the ongoing invasion of illegals.

An alternative is to charge the Japs for protecting their country. So much for each soldier/sailor, so much for each ship/aircraft/tank/rifle/bullet. Time to turn being the world cop into a profit making business (other than the fat cats/corporations/attorneys at the big US weapons manufacturers.)

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Post by vladimir » Fri Jul 04, 2014 9:13 pm

If the US left, China would move in.

They are already courting S. Korea, and I think the US will find out how loyalties disappear when money is at stake...karma, perhaps?
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Post by Soi Dog » Fri Jul 04, 2014 9:20 pm

vladimir wrote:If the US left, China would move in.

They are already courting S. Korea, and I think the US will find out how loyalties disappear when money is at stake...karma, perhaps?
Courting South Korea....while propping up North Korea for 64 years.

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Post by FreeSocrates! » Fri Jul 04, 2014 10:37 pm

vladimir wrote:If the US left, China would move in.

They are already courting S. Korea, and I think the US will find out how loyalties disappear when money is at stake...karma, perhaps?
I believe it's probably a good thing to have more than one Super Power. Americans obviously don't know how to run the entire planet.

That being said, the US and Japan have been allies since the end of WW2. And the Chinese and Japanese are historical enemies.
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Re: Japan lifts military's 60-year-old ban on fighting abroa

Post by Sailorman » Sat Jul 05, 2014 9:22 am

2 Billion is chump change for the level of protection that the Japs get from the US. Threaten to walk away and see what kind of trade deals and money we get from Japan, S Korea, and a few others in that area. Time for the US to start protecting the US soil from the invasion that is taking place on its southern border. One up side is that the people from Mexico and Central America invading the US are Christians and can be use as cannon fodder in the upcoming war with Islam. Also at least the invaders from Central America and Mexico don't want to kill us because we won't convert to their bogus religion or can't set up sharia law in America.
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Re: Japan lifts military's 60-year-old ban on fighting abroa

Post by The Add Jay » Sat Jul 05, 2014 11:30 am

FreeSocrates! wrote:
vladimir wrote:If the US left, China would move in.

They are already courting S. Korea, and I think the US will find out how loyalties disappear when money is at stake...karma, perhaps?
I believe it's probably a good thing to have more than one Super Power. Americans obviously don't know how to run the entire planet.

That being said, the US and Japan have been allies since the end of WW2. And the Chinese and Japanese are historical enemies.

I dont think is a good choice of a super power since the reproduce like anchovies. China cannot be a super power...they are inferior in many ways. Sorry if that medicine is not easy to swallow.
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Post by vladimir » Sat Jul 05, 2014 5:36 pm

Sailorman wrote:2 Billion is chump change for the level of protection that the Japs get from the US. Threaten to walk away and see what kind of trade deals and money we get from Japan, S Korea, and a few others in that area. Time for the US to start protecting the US soil from the invasion that is taking place on its southern border. One up side is that the people from Mexico and Central America invading the US are Christians and can be use as cannon fodder in the upcoming war with Islam. Also at least the invaders from Central America and Mexico don't want to kill us because we won't convert to their bogus religion or can't set up sharia law in America.
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