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Japan deputy PM comment on defending Taiwan if invaded angers China

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TOKYO (Reuters) -Japan's deputy prime minister said the country needed to defend Taiwan with the United States if the island was invaded, Kyodo news agency reported late on Monday, angering Beijing which regards Taiwan as its own territory.

China has never ruled out using force to reunite Taiwan with the mainland and recent military exercises by China and Taiwan across the Straits of Taiwan have raised tensions.

"If a major problem took place in Taiwan, it would not be too much to say that it could relate to a survival-threatening situation (for Japan)," Japan's deputy prime minister Taro Aso said at a fundraising party by a fellow Liberal Democratic Party lawmaker, according to Kyodo.

A "survival-threatening situation" refers to a situation where an armed attack against a foreign country that is in a close relationship with Japan occurs, which in turns poses a clear risk of threatening Japan's survival.

Such a situation is one of the conditions that need to be met for Japan to exercise its right of collective self-defence, or coming to the aid of an ally under attack.

"We need to think hard that Okinawa could be the next," Aso was quoted by Kyodo as saying.

China foreign ministry spokesperson Zhao Lijian said at a regular news conference on Tuesday that Aso's remarks "harmed the political foundation of China-Japan relations", and China "resolutely opposed" them.

"No one should underestimate the Chinese people's staunch resolve, firm will, and formidable ability to defend national sovereignty," he said.

China claims a group of Japanese-controlled islets in the East China Sea. The tiny uninhabited isles, called the Senkaku in Japan and Diaoyu in China, are off Japan's southern island of Okinawa.

Aso, asked about Japan's stance on the cross-strait issue at a news conference on Tuesday, said any contingency over Taiwan should be resolved through dialogue.

"We are closely monitoring the situation," Aso, who doubles as finance minister, told reporters.

Chief Cabinet Secretary Katsunobu Kato, when asked if Aso's Monday comment was in line with the government's stance, declined to comment, saying he was not aware of the Aso comment in detail, but reiterated Japan's official policy on the matter.

"Japan hopes the Taiwan issue will be resolved through direct dialogue between parties concerned in a peaceful manner. That has been our consistent stance," the top government spokesman said.

(Reporting by Tetsushi Kajimoto, Kiyoshi Takenaka; Additional reporting by Gabriel Crossley; Editing by Ritsuko Ando, Michael Perry and Muralikumar Anantharaman)
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posted on 28th June over at http://www.generationaldynamics.com

28-Jun-21 World View -- Japan's plans for defending Taiwan from an attack by China
China's Dong Jingwei defects to the United States

by John J. Xenakis

This morning's key headlines from GenerationalDynamics.com
  • Japan's relations with Taiwan
  • Defending Taiwan as 'collective self-defense'
  • Is Taiwan a 'nation'?
  • China's plan for invading Taiwan
  • Japan provides vaccines to Taiwan
  • Instability of the Chinese Communist Party
  • China's Dong Jingwei defects to the United States
I had forgotten about the Dong Jingwei story and I think it deserves more attention... if only for the lack of publicity it has garnered.
On top of all this, there have been reports that Xi Jinping and CCP officials have been shocked at the defection in February of Dong Jingwei and his daughter to the United States. Dong is China's Vice Minister of State Security in the Chinese Ministry of Defense. He is perhaps the highest-level Chinese defector the U.S. has ever had.

He is reported to be providing information about the identity of all the Chinese spies in the US, and methods used by the Chinese to infiltrate the US government, businesses and universities.
That last bit, that I highlighted, could be a real can of worms. And this wasn't just some random flunky.. this guy was right up there at the top.
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Ofcourse it angers China.

Really wonder at what stage the entire world starts boycotting China for the deliberate spread of the virus to the world. (they locked down Wuhan but international flights could still leave. In my opinion that should be considered as an act of war).

China is powerful but their offensive capabilities are not that great.
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Equinix wrote: Wed Jul 07, 2021 9:19 am

China is powerful but their offensive capabilities are not that great.
You , obviously, have not been in a hotel to eat when a large group of them come down for breakfast.................... :facepalm:
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Arget wrote: Wed Jul 07, 2021 10:17 am
Equinix wrote: Wed Jul 07, 2021 9:19 am

China is powerful but their offensive capabilities are not that great.
You , obviously, have not been in a hotel to eat when a large group of them come down for breakfast.................... :facepalm:
True, they are quite capable of being offensive. :wink:

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That reminds me of watching some Chinese guests in a hotel restaurant, where the poor sods refilling the buffet were getting swarmed before ever reaching their target!

Which further reminds me of our crew hotel in Copenhagen- the early morning departures were provided a simple continental buffet of coffee and croissants. When the Chinese tour bus just happened to be departing the hotel at the same time, the buffet lasted seconds; one person holds the carrier bag, the other tips the entire tray of croissants into the bag. The remaining passengers would be swarming the reception demanding* more croissants.




*shrill screaming with frantic hand gestures.
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IraHayes wrote: Wed Jul 07, 2021 9:18 am posted on 28th June over at http://www.generationaldynamics.com

28-Jun-21 World View -- Japan's plans for defending Taiwan from an attack by China
China's Dong Jingwei defects to the United States

by John J. Xenakis

This morning's key headlines from GenerationalDynamics.com
  • Japan's relations with Taiwan
  • Defending Taiwan as 'collective self-defense'
  • Is Taiwan a 'nation'?
  • China's plan for invading Taiwan
  • Japan provides vaccines to Taiwan
  • Instability of the Chinese Communist Party
  • China's Dong Jingwei defects to the United States
I had forgotten about the Dong Jingwei story and I think it deserves more attention... if only for the lack of publicity it has garnered.
On top of all this, there have been reports that Xi Jinping and CCP officials have been shocked at the defection in February of Dong Jingwei and his daughter to the United States. Dong is China's Vice Minister of State Security in the Chinese Ministry of Defense. He is perhaps the highest-level Chinese defector the U.S. has ever had.

He is reported to be providing information about the identity of all the Chinese spies in the US, and methods used by the Chinese to infiltrate the US government, businesses and universities.
That last bit, that I highlighted, could be a real can of worms. And this wasn't just some random flunky.. this guy was right up there at the top.
Sorry to disapoint you, Ira. This whole story is a hoax from beginning to end

https://www.abc.net.au/mediawatch/episo ... a/13422308
Here is the end bit of story..

Killing the rumour it had promoted, SpyTalk then had former CIA China expert Nicholas Eftimiades say the denial was:

… definitive, a closed issue: “game, set, match.”
- SpyTalk, 23 June, 2021

On the same day, Newsweek also had two US government sources confirm the story was, quote, “not accurate” and “absolutely untrue”.
And the day after that, Newsweek published a photo of Dong Jingwei apparently alive and well in China. That’s him there on the right.

So, no smoking gun after all.
But of course the picture could be fake. And those who want to believe that will doubtless continue to do so.
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SternAAlbifrons wrote: Wed Jul 07, 2021 8:29 pm
IraHayes wrote: Wed Jul 07, 2021 9:18 am posted on 28th June over at http://www.generationaldynamics.com

28-Jun-21 World View -- Japan's plans for defending Taiwan from an attack by China
China's Dong Jingwei defects to the United States

by John J. Xenakis

This morning's key headlines from GenerationalDynamics.com
  • Japan's relations with Taiwan
  • Defending Taiwan as 'collective self-defense'
  • Is Taiwan a 'nation'?
  • China's plan for invading Taiwan
  • Japan provides vaccines to Taiwan
  • Instability of the Chinese Communist Party
  • China's Dong Jingwei defects to the United States
I had forgotten about the Dong Jingwei story and I think it deserves more attention... if only for the lack of publicity it has garnered.
On top of all this, there have been reports that Xi Jinping and CCP officials have been shocked at the defection in February of Dong Jingwei and his daughter to the United States. Dong is China's Vice Minister of State Security in the Chinese Ministry of Defense. He is perhaps the highest-level Chinese defector the U.S. has ever had.

He is reported to be providing information about the identity of all the Chinese spies in the US, and methods used by the Chinese to infiltrate the US government, businesses and universities.

That last bit, that I highlighted, could be a real can of worms. And this wasn't just some random flunky.. this guy was right up there at the top.
Sorry to disapoint you, Ira. This whole story is a hoax from beginning to end

https://www.abc.net.au/mediawatch/episo ... a/13422308
Here is the end bit of story..

Killing the rumour it had promoted, SpyTalk then had former CIA China expert Nicholas Eftimiades say the denial was:

… definitive, a closed issue: “game, set, match.”
- SpyTalk, 23 June, 2021

On the same day, Newsweek also had two US government sources confirm the story was, quote, “not accurate” and “absolutely untrue”.
And the day after that, Newsweek published a photo of Dong Jingwei apparently alive and well in China. That’s him there on the right.

So, no smoking gun after all.
But of course the picture could be fake. And those who want to believe that will doubtless continue to do so.
thanks for taking the time to look into this. I had, once more, forgotten all about it about 3 minutes after I posted.
It would appear that the original rumor started on Chinese-language anti-communist media and Twitter.
maybe they were trying to implicate him and force him to flee under suspicion of even thinking of defecting ... who knows.
Maybe he'll quietly disappear in a few years... you know, when everyone has forgotten about the story, maybe he'll be quietly "retired".
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