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Oh look, heres another group of Palestinians that Israel does not like.



And another 2 Palestinians who look like real terrorist fighters carrying a white flag.

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Cambo Dear wrote: Tue Apr 09, 2024 3:17 am Firstly, it has never been a conflict, it's a genocide. It's a genocide that did not start with a few Palestinian freedom fighters sailing over the Israeli border, but one that started with the Nakba in the 1940s and continues today under the Zionist banner. If you want to believe the horseshit fed to you by the Zionist-led media, cool. But remember, it's often asked how the world stood by and allowed a genocide to happen against the Jews. Well, this is how.

Sure, a special sort of genocide where the population goes up instead of down. Such BS. Throwing the word "genocide" into every argument isn't the clever move you think it is.

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DavidMurphy wrote: Tue Apr 09, 2024 8:14 am Israel encouraged the French Jews to make Aliyah a decade ago after one French Jewish young man was abducted, tortured and killed by French Africans, pinning it as a hate crime. Truth is, he wasn't targeted because he was a Jew. He was targeted because he was from a rich family. IIRC, the president attended his funeral and it became a huge 'anti-Semitic hate crime' story in the French and Israeli press. Hogwash. It was a crime of opportunity. The Zionist media had its own narrative though: 'Jews are not safe in France. Come to the Holy Land quickly, guys!'
Actually yes, they did abduct him (Ilan Halimi) because he was Jew so, in their opinion, from a rich family.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Ilan_Halimi
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barang_TK wrote: Tue Apr 09, 2024 9:06 am
DavidMurphy wrote: Tue Apr 09, 2024 8:14 am Israel encouraged the French Jews to make Aliyah a decade ago after one French Jewish young man was abducted, tortured and killed by French Africans, pinning it as a hate crime. Truth is, he wasn't targeted because he was a Jew. He was targeted because he was from a rich family. IIRC, the president attended his funeral and it became a huge 'anti-Semitic hate crime' story in the French and Israeli press. Hogwash. It was a crime of opportunity. The Zionist media had its own narrative though: 'Jews are not safe in France. Come to the Holy Land quickly, guys!'
Actually yes, they did abduct him (Ilan Halimi) because he was Jew so, in their opinion, from a rich family.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Ilan_Halimi
The kidnappers originally thought Halimi was wealthy because he came from a Jewish family, although he came from the same poor and working-class neighborhood on the outskirts of Paris as the kidnappers did. According to then Interior Minister Nicolas Sarkozy, members of the gang confessed that they believed all Jews to be rich and it motivated them to target several Jews.
Yes, just because they were deluded morons doesn't mean they weren't obvious anti-semites. "Jews are all rich and control the world" has been a common trope since the Protocols of the Elders of Zion was forged.
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Tootsfriend wrote: Tue Apr 09, 2024 8:40 am Oh look, heres another group of Palestinians that Israel does not like.



And another 2 Palestinians who look like real terrorist fighters carrying a white flag.

These are all young men of fighting age. There is no information about what they did beforehand and it could be that they were Hamas fighters trying to regroup and escape. Posting random killing videos without proper background information only serves to reinforce the popular idea that the IDF kills people for fun. And that Zionists are inherently bloodthirsty and evil, which is bullshit.
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There are plenty of reasons for actively opposing the Netanyahu extremists' (and Hamas extremists') brand of hijackmurder and inhumane disregard for international law without resorting to base stereotypes that burn on ancient, contrived hatefuel.
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Genocide is a multi-step process. The term applies in this case.
http://genocidewatch.net/genocide-2/8-s ... -genocide/
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newsgatherer wrote: Tue Apr 09, 2024 10:03 am
Tootsfriend wrote: Tue Apr 09, 2024 8:40 am Oh look, heres another group of Palestinians that Israel does not like.



And another 2 Palestinians who look like real terrorist fighters carrying a white flag.

These are all young men of fighting age. There is no information about what they did beforehand and it could be that they were Hamas fighters trying to regroup and escape. Posting random killing videos without proper background information only serves to reinforce the popular idea that the IDF kills people for fun. And that Zionists are inherently bloodthirsty and evil, which is bullshit.


Another denier. Now explain why civilized people would not want to arrest these unarmed people and find out exactly what they doing or had done instead of just killing them as if they were guilty.
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None of us know what the Secret Service might know about these guys. But what we do know is that Hamas fighters use brutal guerrilla tactics and hide like ordinary civilians to avoid being caught.
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John Bingham wrote: Tue Apr 09, 2024 9:44 am
barang_TK wrote: Tue Apr 09, 2024 9:06 am
DavidMurphy wrote: Tue Apr 09, 2024 8:14 am Israel encouraged the French Jews to make Aliyah a decade ago after one French Jewish young man was abducted, tortured and killed by French Africans, pinning it as a hate crime. Truth is, he wasn't targeted because he was a Jew. He was targeted because he was from a rich family. IIRC, the president attended his funeral and it became a huge 'anti-Semitic hate crime' story in the French and Israeli press. Hogwash. It was a crime of opportunity. The Zionist media had its own narrative though: 'Jews are not safe in France. Come to the Holy Land quickly, guys!'
Actually yes, they did abduct him (Ilan Halimi) because he was Jew so, in their opinion, from a rich family.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Ilan_Halimi
The kidnappers originally thought Halimi was wealthy because he came from a Jewish family, although he came from the same poor and working-class neighborhood on the outskirts of Paris as the kidnappers did. According to then Interior Minister Nicolas Sarkozy, members of the gang confessed that they believed all Jews to be rich and it motivated them to target several Jews.
Yes, just because they were deluded morons doesn't mean they weren't obvious anti-semites. "Jews are all rich and control the world" has been a common trope since the Protocols of the Elders of Zion was forged.

Indian households in the USA top the family wealth list. If I'm a burglar with a plan, I'd rob houses belonging to Indians. That wouldn't make me anti Indian. Just opportunism.
They believed Jews were rich (they often are).
That's targeting wisely ( unwisely as it happened coz he wasn't rich ).
Doesn't make it an antisemitic hate crime, though. Bombing a synagogue, on the other hand - that's a hate crime.
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