always thought mma guys wee a bit slow mentally

dumb sport imho

but carry on taking hits to the head and brain damage

IraHayes wrote: ↑Wed May 13, 2020 11:50 am I would like to discuss the Chinese mind-set while not making specific comparisons to China.

Lol, that's going to be a tall order there, Ira.

I appreciate that you're trying to have a vigorous discussion on a delicate topic without upsetting any millennial snowflakes but in this day and age......it just can't happen.

Can't we just call a spade a spade without all this pussyfooting?

Bitte_Kein_Lexus wrote: ↑Wed May 13, 2020 3:03 pm

Jamie_Lambo wrote:yeah looked a lot into this before, All Chinese martial arts are pretty much useless in real life situations, and the Chinese knew this, so they started to glorify them to be some kind of super martial art in movies, like kung fu, when in real life they have next to zero effect

A lot of martial arts evolved into "show" of sorts. However, I'm sure in the last they were used effectively as conditioning tools. Plus, learning to kick or punch is always good. That being said, a karate kata, bokator display and so on are just for show. Most fighting sports are just that: sports. You can be a good boxer or jiujitsu practitioner and still get your ass kicked in a street fight. Fighting evolved into sports over time.

my post is about Chinese Martial Arts, Karate is Japanese and effective (to some extent), Juijitsu is Japanese and very effective, Bokator evolved into Kun Khmer and Muay Thai which is very effective, you only need to watch MMA, which over the past 2 decades has shown which martial arts are most effective and which ones are only for show

Spigzy wrote: ↑Wed May 13, 2020 1:20 pm

truffledog wrote: ↑Wed May 13, 2020 12:27 pm

fazur wrote: ↑Wed May 13, 2020 12:15 pm you could insert any past or present superpower's name into this and it would stand

power breeds arrogance and delusion

which superpower was ever humble and benign?

Superman?

The illegal alien was about to break Batman's neck until he realised their mothers both shared the same name & they immediately became best chums - I'd say he's a loose cannon!! #Martha

Is that what happened eventually in that awful Batman Vs Superman movie? Not even marijuana could save that piece of shit

No way man, I'm callin bullshit
I seen some kung fu dude knock out like 20 guys then he took on Chuck Norris, put him in a sleeper & was out of the picture. Have to admit Chuck put up a good fight. Seen this with my own eyes!

IraHayes wrote: ↑Thu May 14, 2020 1:40 pm Unless it wasn't clear...

It wasn't and it still isn't......I guess I'll bow out because I have no fucking idea what you're on about.

Good luck with your thread.

Yobbo wrote: ↑Thu May 14, 2020 1:43 pm No way man, I'm callin bullshit
I seen some kung fu dude knock out like 20 guys then he took on Chuck Norris, put him in a sleeper & was out of the picture. Have to admit Chuck put up a good fight. Seen this with my own eyes!

the thing with Chinese martial arts, is they look good and effective against someone else practicing that same martial art, but put that Chinese martial art up against another martial art, and 9/10 it will embarrassingly fail, if it wasnt for all the Chinese/Hong Kong movies most people would find Chinese Martial Arts a theatrical joke

i mean look at Tai Chi... for example...

MMA is a game with rules that determine which form will be the winner and the loser. No one breaks bones, loses an eye, or dies, in order to win.

The most effective fighting techniques were the European martial arts. Practiced by millions, and only concerned with how to best kill or cripple opponents. There was no moral philosophy or spiritual goal to be a better person. When reliable firearms appeared, they all went extinct. The bullet is the most amoral thing in the world.

The Eastern martial arts existed because of the moral and spiritual component. But it was used by thousands in Hong Kong to protect themselves in the 1950s when guns and lesser weapons were banned by the British. Forms like Tai Chi are still practice by the elderly for health and flexibility.

As for the difference between Western vs Chinese philosophy. Western enlightenment tries to improve (for better or worse), the world and it’s people. Chinese believe in the order of things. The Middle Earth is the conduit between heaven and earth and it’s people are the chosen.

That’s why war is coming.

Brody wrote: ↑Wed May 13, 2020 6:58 pm...without upsetting any millennial snowflakes...

Huh? Where did this nonsense comment come from? Some of you grumpy old trumpers have your panties in such a bunch; You must just walk around thinking about millennals all the time. Talk about a snowflake...

Sorry the world is changing. But when you're the one going on about it constantly and blaming Everything on millennials, I think you might need to grow a thicker skin.