Heavy handed Covid police have to pay bigtime.

David Gordon · Post by **David Gordon** » Sun Feb 12, 2023 7:35 pm

Ryan754326 wrote: ↑Sun Feb 12, 2023 5:49 pm
But isn’t the whole argument that if we’re not completely sure, we shouldn’t be forcing people to take it?

They sold us these vaccines on what turned out to be assumptions and poorly conducted studies. It didn’t do anything like what they said it would. Imagine if things had gone really bad, and three years later we had huge numbers of people showing serious damage.

The science always evolves and we always learn new things, but at the time, anyone who didn’t accept the current science was treated as a conspiracy theorist.

I was never against the vaccines, and I never resisted taking it, but I was always against people being forced to take it.

Right. It’s not anti vax to be anti mandate. What raised my suspicions was the universal control of the medical professionals dialogue preventing doctors from freely discussing their concerns - the refusal to allow treatment options like iver and the refusal to acknowledge natural immunity. Then the in your face lies by politicians who strangely were all reading from the same play book while constantly selling the vaccine as safe and effective.

Kammekor · Post by **Kammekor** » Sun Feb 12, 2023 7:57 pm

David Gordon wrote: ↑Sun Feb 12, 2023 7:35 pm
Ryan754326 wrote: ↑Sun Feb 12, 2023 5:49 pm
But isn’t the whole argument that if we’re not completely sure, we shouldn’t be forcing people to take it?

They sold us these vaccines on what turned out to be assumptions and poorly conducted studies. It didn’t do anything like what they said it would. Imagine if things had gone really bad, and three years later we had huge numbers of people showing serious damage.

The science always evolves and we always learn new things, but at the time, anyone who didn’t accept the current science was treated as a conspiracy theorist.

I was never against the vaccines, and I never resisted taking it, but I was always against people being forced to take it.
Right. It’s not anti vax to be anti mandate. What raised my suspicions was the universal control of the medical professionals dialogue preventing doctors from freely discussing their concerns - the refusal to allow treatment options like iver and the refusal to acknowledge natural immunity. Then the in your face lies by politicians who strangely were all reading from the same play book while constantly selling the vaccine as safe and effective.

There have been lies, there has been control. But there's also been a pandemic. Even a country like Cambodia which doesn't care about its'citizens much introduced restrictions when things spiraled out of control in early 2021. Pre omicron, pre vaccines.
What if this virus would have evolved in a different way. Not towards Omicron, but towards more lethal.
Don't forget most of this discussion is fueled with hindsight. The ones on top of the news know COVID has been far less dangerous since November 2021 and have acted accordingly.

Doc67 · Post by **Doc67** » Sun Feb 12, 2023 8:22 pm

I'm more concerned about all these Chinese balloons being shot down over north America.

But 3 cheers for @CaptainCanuck for getting this bullshit balloon aloft.

Drizzle · Post by **Drizzle** » Sun Feb 12, 2023 10:03 pm

John Bingham wrote: ↑Sun Feb 12, 2023 3:52 pm
The WHO, WEF, NATO, UN, Pharmacies, big powerful business, Blackrock. We will have the digital ID's forced upon us, central bank digital currency. The 15 minute cities, its all about control. Most governments are in the pockets of the WEF.
Mass migration of dangerous people, all labelled refugees, but we know the truth, fighting age men.
The Covid, Fauci and the gain of function research was a means to get everyone vaxxed. Lockdowns, many people losing their livelihoods.
All intended.
I could write pages and pages on what is happening in this world, I won't.

Maybe the evil overlords and pharmacies just did it as a test? Next time the virus will be much more lethal and all the disobedient ones will die? A converse situation wouldn't help them.

OR.. it was all a test to weedle out the weak from the strong headed, independent minded who were willing to lose livelihoods to stand up for what they believed in.
What are the 10 year affects of this vaccine?

Drizzle · Post by **Drizzle** » Sun Feb 12, 2023 10:03 pm

'vaccine'*

John Bingham · Post by **John Bingham** » Sun Feb 12, 2023 11:14 pm

Drizzle wrote: ↑Sun Feb 12, 2023 10:03 pm
John Bingham wrote: ↑Sun Feb 12, 2023 3:52 pm
The WHO, WEF, NATO, UN, Pharmacies, big powerful business, Blackrock. We will have the digital ID's forced upon us, central bank digital currency. The 15 minute cities, its all about control. Most governments are in the pockets of the WEF.
Mass migration of dangerous people, all labelled refugees, but we know the truth, fighting age men.
The Covid, Fauci and the gain of function research was a means to get everyone vaxxed. Lockdowns, many people losing their livelihoods.
All intended.
I could write pages and pages on what is happening in this world, I won't.

Maybe the evil overlords and pharmacies just did it as a test? Next time the virus will be much more lethal and all the disobedient ones will die? A converse situation wouldn't help them.
OR.. it was all a test to weedle out the weak from the strong headed, independent minded who were willing to lose livelihoods to stand up for what they believed in.
What are the 10 year affects of this vaccine?

Why would the evil overlords and pharmacists want to keep people who wouldn't do their bidding? Doesn't that seem counter-productive? I'm not on the side of the evil overlords but if I was I would definitely kill all the "strong headed, independent minded" people first. Then I would slowly kill everyone else after enslaving them to make a giant gold temple to Marx and Lenin that would dwarf the pyramids of Giza. Then I would go after the pharmacists.

Post by **Freightdog** » Mon Feb 13, 2023 12:13 am

Drizzle wrote: ↑Sun Feb 12, 2023 10:03 pm who were willing to lose livelihoods to stand up for what they believed in.

Is/are livelihood (and possibly liberty) the only motivations that people consider when judging people’s decisions? That would be a rather narrow view, don’t you think?

David Gordon · Post by **David Gordon** » Mon Feb 13, 2023 8:14 am

Drizzle wrote: ↑Sun Feb 12, 2023 10:03 pm
John Bingham wrote: ↑Sun Feb 12, 2023 3:52 pm
The WHO, WEF, NATO, UN, Pharmacies, big powerful business, Blackrock. We will have the digital ID's forced upon us, central bank digital currency. The 15 minute cities, its all about control. Most governments are in the pockets of the WEF.
Mass migration of dangerous people, all labelled refugees, but we know the truth, fighting age men.
The Covid, Fauci and the gain of function research was a means to get everyone vaxxed. Lockdowns, many people losing their livelihoods.
All intended.
I could write pages and pages on what is happening in this world, I won't.

Maybe the evil overlords and pharmacies just did it as a test? Next time the virus will be much more lethal and all the disobedient ones will die? A converse situation wouldn't help them.
OR.. it was all a test to weedle out the weak from the strong headed, independent minded who were willing to lose livelihoods to stand up for what they believed in.
What are the 10 year affects of this vaccine?

The government(s) have now identified people of principal who are in their way and we are on a list. But for ‘these’ people the government can do anything they want and the people will comply. Enter digital id’s and social credit and these people will lose freedom of movement and even banking access. This is what they want and it’s not even a conspiracy theory anymore.

David Gordon · Post by **David Gordon** » Mon Feb 13, 2023 9:08 am

For many the pill is just impossibly too large to swallow - and - to get it down - you need to drink a few large jugs of humility which is hard to find and tastes awful - and - while searching for it people keep offering you glasses full of denial instead - which gives a quick buzz and quenches your thirst and is enough to make you forget your initial quest in the first place.

Drizzle · Post by **Drizzle** » Mon Feb 13, 2023 3:44 pm

Yes! There's very few people who are willing to admit that they made a conclusion or judgment reached after consideration.
Most on here fell at the first hurdle, and that was the freedom to fly. (To see their brass wives).
Then to keep their jobs etc.
either way, very weak people.

No unvaccinated are scared of being unvaxxed cos if we were... Duhhhh....!

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