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one has to wonder how did CNN get permission to enter Burma when others are not allowed in? The junta will lead them on a goodwill tour for sure, BUT this is not CNN's first dog & pony show.




We don't know what kind of story
@CNN is weaving, but they almost certainly know they're being presented with a choreographed event.

They know the junta wants to malign protesters.
Here's another way to look at this; by being allowed into the country and compelling the junta to put on a silly performance, they are actually buying the protestors a few more peaceful days. There are lots of possible silver linings.

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These folks also wrote the story about Ma Kyal Sin https://edition.cnn.com/2021/03/12/asia ... index.html

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Angel's body is transported from the Yunnan Chinese temple in Mandalay, during her funeral on March 4.


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More trumped up charges
Aung San Suu Kyi is now being charged with treason, rebellion, trying to forcibly seize power and disintegrate the Tatmadaw, undermining the constitution and corruption, according to Khit Thit Media

The rebels who will and won’t fight Myanmar’s coup
Karen and Kachin rebels have launched attacks but other ethnic armed groups are lying in wait or even quietly collaborating with the coup makers
Myanmar’s multi-sided civil war, now more clearly than ever a war waged by the military against all segments and ethnicities of society, saw its bloodiest day on March 27’s Armed Forces Day.

Notably absent to this theater of the absurd were senior officials from Myanmar’s ethnic armed organizations (EAO), who boycotted the event and have issued stern statements of opposition to the February 1 coup and the new State Administration Council’s (SAC) murderous rule.

Many are now calling on the nation’s various EAOs to escalate their attacks against the military, or Tatmadaw, and alleviate pressure on and express solidarity with the many unarmed urban opponents of the coup.

But EAO responses have been decidedly mixed and encompass three broad typologies: rhetoric and armed action, words with little action, and silence and inaction.
https://asiatimes.com/2021/03/the-rebel ... mars-coup/

US stands with the protestors:
Burma’s people — particularly women and young people — have made their stance clear. They have raised red balloons and banged pots and pans. Factory workers have staged walk outs. Civil servants have protested. Doctors, tea house servers, delivery drivers, oil rig operators, students and poets have all joined together to reject the military’s overthrow, demanding democracy and continued engagement with the world.

They deserve our support. That is why the United States will continue to stand resolutely with Burma’s people.

For decades, the Burmese military has been a tool of oligarchy and suppression. Over the years, the Burmese people, especially ethnic minority groups such as the Rohingya and other vulnerable populations in the Chin, Kachin, Karen, Rakhine and Shan states have been terrorized, displaced and killed.

When the U.S. government provided sanctions relief in 2012, it was based on the military’s pledge to return to the barracks and support Burma’s burgeoning democracy.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions ... -must-too/
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No mention of the brutal persecution of the Rohingyas. I don't recall this level of protest against the military when they committing atrocities against the Rohingyas. Atrocities that were cheered on by the ordinary Myanmar people, led by Buddhist monk Ashin Wirathu. Could this be some form of Karmic justice? And lets not forget Aung Sang Suu Kyi and how she defended the army. Remember back in 2019, at the International Court of Justice in the Hague? They held a trial on Burma's genocide, and Aung Sang Suu Kyi came and defended the army, saying that nothing had happened.

I would posit she outlived her usefulness to the army so she's now in jail. The horrors and atrocities that the army perpetrated on the Rohingyas are now being perpetrated on Buddhist civilians. That is truly Karmic justice.
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and so it goes on; what took so long to make, is now finished;
Anti-coup protesters burn a paper copy of the 2008 Constitution in Yangon's Hlaing township today, following an announcement by the CRPH-- a body representing some of Myanmar's elected lawmakers-- that the Constitution has been abolished

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Meanwhile the killing continues:
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YANGON—Eleven men were killed and five others were injured in a Myanmar military airstrike on a gold-panning site in an area under the control of the Karen National Union (KNU)’s Brigade 3 in Shwekyin Township, Nyaunglebin District, Bago Region.

A Myanmar military fighter plane bombed the site at around 12 p.m. on Tuesday, said KNU Brigade 3.
The gold panning site is a joint venture between the KNU/Karen National Liberation Army-Peace Council and Swe Dana Tun Lin Mining Co.
https://www.irrawaddy.com/news/burma/el ... -area.html



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I cant even begin to imagine how i would feel if my daughter was murdered.
Kids' are supposed to be protected as they are the future

Guess the junta has other ideas ;-(
More than 30 children ranging in age from 5 to 17 were among at least 510 people killed by the military regime’s forces across Myanmar since Feb. 1.

The death toll of minors reached more than 20 last Friday and exceeded 30 on Saturday, when at least 11 children were killed during the bloodiest violence unleashed so far by the regime’s forces against pro-democracy protesters. The total number of children killed could climb higher as the ages of several victims have not yet been confirmed.

Most of the youngest victims of the regime were shot dead while playing in their neighborhoods or sheltering inside their homes as soldiers and police opened fire randomly on residences. Some of the older children died while attending protests. A number of children including a 1-year-old baby have been severely injured as soldiers and police fired indiscriminately during their raids.
stories and photos of those that lost their lives
https://www.irrawaddy.com/news/burma/ch ... feb-1.html

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Savage murdering cowardly bastards hiding behind their big boys toys thinking they can do whatever the hell they like with absolute impunity in front a world that simply sits, watches and condemns but does little else for fear of upsetting the only two regimes that refuse to condemn it.

If only the rest of the world, namely through the UN, showed as much bravery and courage in standing up to tyranny as the Myanmar people.
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xandreu wrote: Thu Apr 01, 2021 1:10 pm Savage murdering cowardly bastards hiding behind their big boys toys thinking they can do whatever the hell they like with absolute impunity in front a world that simply sits, watches and condemns but does little else for fear of upsetting the only two regimes that refuse to condemn it.

If only the rest of the world, namely through the UN, showed as much bravery and courage in standing up to tyranny as the Myanmar people.
To be fair I think it's quite safe to say that Russia doesn't care what people say and China is watching what happens to its investments and people and doesn't want to see its factories burnt or infrastructure construction workers targeted.

But with regards the UN's inability to take decisive action beyond harsh words well .... been here before haven't we.
I do see a full on bloody re-fighting of the 1948-58 civil war and the only way the west will get directly involved is if it spirals into a larger reginal conflict involving China. If China is pre-occupied in Burma it may give India ideas about the Ladakh border dispute ... the paths that lead to a global war are becoming more visible and restraint is at an all time low.
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something going to go down soon:

MYANMAR JUNTA ORDERS INTERNET PROVIDERS TO SHUT DOWN ALL WIRELESS BROADBAND SERVICES UNTIL FURTHER NOTICE - TELECOMS SOURCES

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The Assistance Association for Political Prisoners (AAPP) has said that 636 civilians have been killed and more than 2,700 detained since the junta staged the February 1 coup.

Junta escorts international news team across Yangon, urges police to show restraint
A team from CNN is led by a military convoy as people bang pots and pans in defiance of the regime
While murders of protesters by the junta’s armed forces has been well documented through March 30, there was a reduction in the use of deadly force as a CNN news crew arrived in Myanmar on March 31 under close supervision by the regime.

Myanmar Now has learned that the junta warned its police force not to use excessive force against crowds during the visit by CNN chief international correspondent Clarissa Ward.

The crew traveled across Yangon escorted by a military convoy on Wednesday to the sound of people banging pots and pans from their homes– an expression of defiance against the ruling junta.

A police force directive signed by police Maj Myo Khine Oo dated March 30 has been widely circulated on social media outlining the tactical change.
https://myanmar-now.org/en/news/junta-e ... -restraint


NGOs and emergency workers not given access to refugees as war of words continue in Bangkok

In Bangkok, opposition parties and human rights groups have questioned the government’s policy on the refugee and the confusion surrounding the government’s official stance.

“What Prayut claims as voluntary return is contradicting to what is happening on the ground,” Sunai Phasuk, a senior researcher at Human Rights Watch told Thai Enquirer.

“The Tatmadaw offensive is still continuing in Shan State and it is impossible for a safe return of asylum seekers at the moment,” he said.

Prayut denied on Tuesday that there was an influx of refugees crossing the border and that the Thai military simply asked for them turn back without the threat of force and that most have done so.
Rights groups and emergency medical workers were not being given access to Myanmar refugees fleeing into the country, several sources told Thai Enquirer on Friday.

At least 3,000 Karen refugees have tried to seek refuge in Thailand since last weekend after the Myanmar government stepped up a military offensive against the ethnic armies operating in Shan state.

Many of the refugees were turned back due to unclear policies from Bangkok while those that were sheltered or were allowed to take temporary refuge were not allowed to meet with rights groups and journalists working in the area.

“We were told by the local army commander that we could not meet with the refugees because of concerns about Covid-19,” a NGO worker in Mae Hong Song Province told Thai Enquirer by phone.
https://www.thaienquirer.com/26041/ngos ... n-bangkok/

A good in-depth analysis

https://www.crisisgroup.org/asia/south- ... e-collapse
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after CNN interviews you and they have left.
Notice the 3 finger salute

“A young girl and another one were arrested by Junta after interviewed them around 2:45 pm today in Yangon” local media reports

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Anti-coup protesters in Myanmar are leaving flowers at bus stops today in memory of those killed by junta forces
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Of course armed police have started camping out at bus stops because apparently laying flowers is illegal now

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China is blocking sanctions in the UN. Russia supports the Tatmadaw. No wonder they burned Chinese factories.
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for better or for worse?
At least 536 demonstrators have lost their lives in the armed intervention by security forces.

Myanmar junta declares 1-month cease-fire
Military to continue to respond to actions that disrupt government security and administration

Myanmar’s military, which overthrew the country’s elected government through a coup in February this year, declared a month-long cease-fire in the country Thursday.

In an address to the nation, military chief Gen. Min Aung Hlaing said the army has declared a unilateral ceasefire until April 30 in order to continue peace talks with ethnic armed groups in the country and to peacefully celebrate the Buddhist festival of Thingyan from April 13-16, which culminates on Lunar New Year Day.

“Ensuring public order by the army against activities that disrupt the functioning of the government is outside of the cease-fire,” he said, noting an exception to the truce.

Meanwhile, the Kachin Independence Army (KIA) -- an anti-coup ethnic armed group -- captured a police station in a district of Kachin State.
https://www.aa.com.tr/en/asia-pacific/m ... re/2194728#

Meanwhile the ethnic groups are getting more and more joining and are preparing for a fight..

‘The last fight’: With growing support for federal army, Kachin prepares for war
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With youth flocking to join the Kachin Independence Army since the Tatmadaw took power, Frontier spoke to the young Kachin who believe armed revolution is the only way forward.

Resistance to the coup has brought ethnic nationalities’ decades-long struggles for self-determination in line with the desires of the larger population, including the Bamar majority, to topple the junta. Before February 1, many Bamar regarded ethnic armed groups as threats to national unity, but in recent weeks, these armed groups have received a flood of mainstream support. As the Tatmadaw continues to kill, arrest and terrorise civilians, calls are growing across the country for ethnic armed groups to step in and protect the people by participating in a “federal army”. This new federal army, which so far exists only as an idea, would not only unite Myanmar’s ethnic armies in the borderlands, but also recruit Bamar civilians from central Myanmar and, it is hoped, defectors from the Tatmadaw.

For ethnic nationalities including Kachin, the protest movement is not only about fighting against military dictatorship; it’s also about fighting for a new constitution that guarantees them federal rights. These rights were promised to ethnic leaders in the 1947 Panglong Agreement brokered by Aung San Suu Kyi’s father, General Aung San, as a condition for joining the soon-to-be-independent Union of Burma. The failure of every government since to grant these rights has fed decades of armed rebellion.
https://www.frontiermyanmar.net/en/the- ... s-for-war/

Myanmar’s Bloodshed Reveals a World That Has Changed, and Hasn’t
How the country became primed for a sort of violence, and a sort of dictatorship, that had grown rare.
Myanmar’s rulers this week crossed a threshold few governments breach anymore: They have killed, by most estimates, more than 500 unarmed citizens of their own country.

Such massacres by government forces have, even in a time of rising nationalism and authoritarianism, been declining worldwide. This is the seventh in the past decade, compared with 23 in the 1990s, according to data from Uppsala University in Sweden.

And the violence in Myanmar was carried out by a sort of government that has grown rarer still: outright military rule.

Most militaries see themselves as protectors against foreign threats, with a strong taboo against committing violence at home. But civil war can break that taboo, normalizing the idea that deploying domestically is legitimate, and making it easier to see fellow citizens as enemies.

And it accustoms generals to the idea that their proper place is not guarding the borders but imposing order at home. Myanmar’s military has considered this its role for decades — even when it allowed elections and limited civilian government in the years before the coup, it granted itself permanent seats in the legislature.

Most militaries see themselves as protectors against foreign threats, with a strong taboo against committing violence at home. But civil war can break that taboo, normalizing the idea that deploying domestically is legitimate, and making it easier to see fellow citizens as enemies.

And it accustoms generals to the idea that their proper place is not guarding the borders but imposing order at home. Myanmar’s military has considered this its role for decades — even when it allowed elections and limited civilian government in the years before the coup, it granted itself permanent seats in the legislature.

But few factors predict future government massacres like past ones. And it has been less than four years since Myanmar’s conducted one of the bloodiest of the 21st century, targeting thousands of members of the country’s Rohingya minority in what the United Nations and human rights groups called a genocidal campaign.

“Once the military is involved in politics, it’s hard to get them out if they don’t want to get out,” said Tom Pepinsky, a Cornell University political scientist. “Very, very hard.”

Most military rulers do step down after a few years, usually in response to an economic downturn, protest movement or other headache that they decide they don’t want. And usually with a promise that they can keep their ranks and salaries.
Read the entire article; https://www.nytimes.com/2021/04/02/worl ... ships.html

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