Ferguson , this is really getting out of hand

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Re: Ferguson , this is really getting out of hand

Post by Joker Poker » Thu Aug 14, 2014 8:09 pm

But, but, but liberty, home of the free.

The greatest nation on earth.

What the fuck has gone wrong?
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Re: Ferguson , this is really getting out of hand

Post by Soi Dog » Thu Aug 14, 2014 8:17 pm

phuketrichard wrote:amerika is showing the world they are as bad as the Israelis
Rights, freedom to assemble, all bullshit if it does not suit the ones in control purpose


http://revolution-news.com/ferguson-jus ... st-system/

UPDATES August 13: De facto militarized police, armed with military weapons, stepped up racist class war on the black community of Ferguson, as details and testimonies about their intent in murdering 18 year old Mike Brown keep pouring from witnesses and residents.

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The "Amerika" thing is so lame and tired (and quite widely used by the pseudo-intellectual dandy mega-poster on the other forum). Anyone who uses that nonsense to show how contrary they are is immature.

The black population of Ferguson is over 67% of the total. Whites are 29%. Are you suggesting the correct and moral proportion of black vs white arrests/car stops is necessarily equal to the racial percentages and no more? What a load of crap.
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Re: Ferguson , this is really getting out of hand

Post by phuketrichard » Thu Aug 14, 2014 9:53 pm

Anyone who uses that nonsense to show how contrary they are is immature.
fuck; without even meeting me u got me all figured out

i thank you for ur insightful posts :hattip:

oh; btw you forgot to mention that even thou the blacks account for 67% of the population the police force is 94% white
Ferguson’s police chief and mayor are white. Of the six City Council members, one is black. The local school board has six white members and one Latino. Of the 53 commissioned officers on the police force, three are black, said Ferguson Police Chief Thomas Jackson.
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Re: Ferguson , this is really getting out of hand

Post by Rain Dog » Thu Aug 14, 2014 10:21 pm

phuketrichard wrote:And it's not going to get any better :thumb:

and that is whats the most scary
When Bush was president you could at least have hope that this was simply a dark time in our history and we would bounce out of it. Obama came along and raised everybody's hopes -- "yes we can!" and hen proceeded to show us how hopeless we are politically.

The country is totally screwed and that saddens me.

Democracy only works if you have a reasonably informed voter base and true choice.

An informed voter base is reliant on an investigative, non partisan media.

Our Media is a Joke.

Hence our voter base is even more ignorant.

Who do you vote for next election -- Hilary (gag) or whichever repug sucks longest on Sheldon Adelson's dick.
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Re: Ferguson , this is really getting out of hand

Post by Soi Dog » Fri Aug 15, 2014 12:44 am

phuketrichard wrote: oh; btw you forgot to mention that even thou the blacks account for 67% of the population the police force is 94% white
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The % of white officers is irrelevant to the particular incident at hand. If this shooter was the only white officer in Ferguson would that change anything? Are you suggesting more black police officers would automatically lead to less arrests of black people and more of white people in the same city..and that somehow this would be more fair, regardless of the real circumstances particular to crime in Ferguson? What matters is whether this shooting was justified or not, and nothing at all to do with how many blacks in cars get pulled over each year.
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Re: Ferguson , this is really getting out of hand

Post by OrangeDragon » Fri Aug 15, 2014 3:39 am

Milord wrote:The FAA has shut down the airspace above Ferguson to prevent air surveillance from the press.

Assholes.
They shut it down after rioters shot at a police helicopter... don't try to make it what it isn't.. lol.
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Re: Ferguson , this is really getting out of hand

Post by phuketrichard » Fri Aug 15, 2014 7:07 am

Soi Dog wrote:
phuketrichard wrote: oh; btw you forgot to mention that even thou the blacks account for 67% of the population the police force is 94% white
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The % of white officers is irrelevant to the particular incident at hand. If this shooter was the only white officer in Ferguson would that change anything? Are you suggesting more black police officers would automatically lead to less arrests of black people and more of white people in the same city..and that somehow this would be more fair, regardless of the real circumstances particular to crime in Ferguson? What matters is whether this shooting was justified or not, and nothing at all to do with how many blacks in cars get pulled over each year.
The black population of Ferguson is over 67% of the total. Whites are 29%. Are you suggesting the correct and moral proportion of black vs white arrests/car stops
than ur opening statement is irrelevant as well , i never mentioned anything about the shooting being justified,
stop turning things i say to what you want me to have said so u can have a go at me. why no comment on the journalist?

the proportions created racial tension and made the white cops feel like they were the "cream on the coffee". hence the number of arrests of blacks vs whites an stops. it more than just this one incident.
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Re: Ferguson , this is really getting out of hand

Post by OrangeDragon » Fri Aug 15, 2014 7:43 am

with, if there are 34% more black than whites in Ferguson, doesn't it suggest that there will statistically be more black arrests as well? the make up a larger portion of the population, so even without racism there should be more black arrests than white.

regarding journalists...
On Wednesday, an Al-Jazeera crew got caught in the tear gas. St. Charles County SWAT Team members located the journalists, put them into their armored car and then disassembled their equipment and loaded it for them.

A spokesperson for the St. Charles County Sheriff’s department says the reporters “thanked their officers.”

“In fact, last night the SWAT Team officers were assisting the media in moving their camera equipment and media personnel to a safer area with their consent so that they could continue to cover the event, ” the Sheriff’s Department said in a news release.
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Re: Ferguson , this is really getting out of hand

Post by Dr Anik » Fri Aug 15, 2014 7:55 am

Joker Poker wrote:But, but, but liberty, home of the free.

The greatest nation on earth.

What the fuck has gone wrong?
Nothing. It has always been a myth.
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Re: Ferguson , this is really getting out of hand

Post by Soi Dog » Fri Aug 15, 2014 7:57 am

phuketrichard wrote: the proportions created racial tension and made the white cops feel like they were the "cream on the coffee". hence the number of arrests of blacks vs whites an stops. it more than just this one incident.
You insult the hard working police offices of all racial groups who have no say in the hiring policies of the police forces they work for, but struggle to do there job and enforce the law while safeguarding their own lives despite a growing popular culture of police animosity. I have no idea whether or not this killing was justified, but neither do you. I am not rushing to judgement without facts. You are.

Police are, and should be, dispatched to patrol areas of high crime, which is often the poorer parts of any town. Some of these poorer parts of town certain places in the US have much higher percentages of minorities. In the case of Ferguson, that means a higher percentages of black people. So in a city with 67% black people, you have more police spending most of their time in those areas often with 99% black citizenry. The police are needed less in the less poverty-stricken parts of town. Therefore, it is no surprise that most of the arrests and car stops IN FERGUSON affect black people. This would be the case whether the police were black or white. If we were talking about some parts of West Virginia which are over 95% poor white people, and the police were mostly black, the arrestees would be overwhelmingly white. That is not necessarily racism. It's statistical probability. Why certain police forces are mostly white or mostly black is irrelevant to those statistics. If you go fishing in a man-made pond stocked overwhelmingly with perch and little else, you catch perch. That is true regardless of the color of the fisherman.

And as you are yet another last-work freak, I'll let you have it.
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