with all due respect to those lost from climbing that mountian it should be said that the final decision rests with the climbers

running out of oxygen whilst clipped to a rope with hudnreds of other climbers when the rope is not rated for that many clipped on nor have they prepared sufficient oxygen for the length of time spent in the death zone queue is a recipe for death

its the climbers that are not risk assessing appropriately for that mountain

excuses like the tour guides are shite or the govs are greedy dont fly for this scenario

More than that,
the guides have a responsibility to tell the climber, "hey, you can't make it an we need turn back"
BUT as the climbers have spent so much money for this dream, they feel they are owed the summit with no thought to having the resources/stamina to make it back down.
Over 24,000 ' ur brain is not working correctly as well.

Great story above PR. The true Everest spirit.

But the Everest dream seems to have turned into a macabre nightmare for the wealthy bucket listers;

“There were 200-plus climbers making their way to the summit,” Saikaly told the Guardian of his ascent. “I came across a deceased climber … that person’s body was fixed to an anchor point between two safety lines and every single person that was climbing towards the summit had to step over that human being".

I hear today that the Nepalese gov has announced a serious review of the whole system. Fingers crossed.

a good read; and puts more in perspective that the deaths were caused because of to many climbers in one pace at one time.

The spring climbing season has ended with at least nine fatalities on Mt Everest, but none of the climbers’ died due to congestion on the world’s highest peak, claim sherpa guides.

The Department of Tourism issued a record number of 381 permits to climbers to scale Mt Everest this season, while climbers found three weather windows to push for the summit between May 16 and 27 after a team of climbing Sherpas opened a route to the summit on May 14.

https://thehimalayantimes.com/nepal/con ... 6JWtzUCq9A

phuketrichard wrote: ↑Wed Jun 05, 2019 12:27 pm a good read; and puts more in perspective that the deaths were caused because of to many climbers in one pace at one time.

The spring climbing season has ended with at least nine fatalities on Mt Everest, but none of the climbers’ died due to congestion on the world’s highest peak, claim sherpa guides.

The Department of Tourism issued a record number of 381 permits to climbers to scale Mt Everest this season, while climbers found three weather windows to push for the summit between May 16 and 27 after a team of climbing Sherpas opened a route to the summit on May 14.

https://thehimalayantimes.com/nepal/con ... 6JWtzUCq9A

Hmm, I am taking that with a grain of salt; these guys obviously have vested interests. This experienced climber seems to think differently: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/mount-ever ... -mountain/

Read ur article and it does NOT say that the deaths were caused by the backlog of climbers in the tragic jam.
which my article says was NOT the cause of the deaths. He explains what each death was caused by and it was not because they were stuck in the jam.

Gyanendra Shrestha, a liaison officer, who spent nearly a month at the base camp this season, also said that no one died due to traffic jam this season.

Traffic jam often occurs every season, said Mingma Gyalje Sherpa, an international mountain guide who was on Everest this season.

“Traffic jam didn’t kill people on Mt Everest. They died due to their own stupidity and ego. If they are true mountaineers, they should listen to their body and should know when to turn back. Everyone knows climbing Everest is a dangerous game. You could pay with your life,” a renowned mountaineer Ang Tshering Lama, who guided two Sherpa widows to the top of the world this season, said.

Maybe we are interpreting the articles differently

This is as close as he comes

Dangerous and even deadly overcrowding is plaguing Mount Everest.

"It's been an especially bad year," Davidson said Wednesday. "We've had some bad weather, so the days that people could go to the summit got all compressed. It was a bigger crowd than average and maybe some people weren't fully trained. You stack all of those together and it turns out to be a really bad factor."

A well written piece,and makes some very valid suggestions..

The deadly 2019 climbing season prompted a worldwide demand to reform management of the world's highest peak. Is change really possible? Mark Jenkins, a veteran alpinist who reached the summit in 2012, lays down an emphatic yes.

Eleven people died on Everest this spring. Not from avalanches or earthquakes or even unexpected snowstorms, but rather, in some part, from the consequences of overcrowding. Nine of the eleven climbers died on the way down, after summiting. Why? Although each death was a unique and tragic case, many of the victims died from altitude sickness, a condition that easily could have been related to spending an unacceptable amount of time in the Death Zone—between Camp IV at 26,000 feet and the summit, above 29,000 feet. This slowdown was caused by a human traffic jam near the summit.

https://www.outsideonline.com/2398393/e ... aXwn4uZ2e8

UPDATE:

New Everest Rules Could Significantly Limit Who Gets to Climb

KATHMANDU, Nepal — In an effort to address deadly human traffic jams on Mount Everest and weed out inexperienced climbers, Nepali officials on Wednesday formally proposed new safety rules that could significantly reduce the number of permits issued for the world’s highest peak.

Under the measures, would-be climbers would have to prove that they have scaled another major peak, and tourism companies would be required to have at least three years’ experience organizing high-altitude expeditions before they can lead climbers on Everest, Nepal’s tourism ministry said.

.....Under the new rules, permits will be issued only to those who have climbed mountains higher than 21,300 feet, Nepali officials said. The government is also considering requiring mandatory health checkups at Everest Base Camp.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/14/worl ... dCSyzOn1rg

Is it enough??

Good work.

Single-use plastics banned in Nepal's Everest region
18 minutes ago
Nepalese authorities have banned single-use plastics in the Everest region in a bid to cut down on waste left by climbers.

The ban will take effect in the Khumbu Pasang Lhamu municipality from January 2020.

A local official told AFP news agency that by starting now, "it will help keep our region, the Everest and the mountains clean long term".

Authorities recently cleared 11 tonnes of rubbish from Mount Everest.

All plastic drinking bottles and plastics of less than 30 microns in width will be banned in the province. No penalty has yet been announced for violators.

Trekking companies, airlines and the Nepal Mountaineering Association will work with local officials to enforce the ban.

Khumbu Pasang Lhamu receives tens of thousands of tourists every year, and the government is introducing more and more measures to limit the effect they have on the area.

In August, an advisory panel recommended that people seeking to summit Everest should employ experienced guides and should first climb a Nepali peak of at least 6,500m (21,325ft).

Currently, a permit for the world's highest mountain costs $11,000. The panel suggested increasing this to at least $35,000.
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