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Well one is statistically so rare it does warrant discussion. Cops killing unarmed white guys happens all the time but . well .. you know ... [crickets]
Nonsense.
There were 5,367 fatal police shootings during that five-year period, according to the Post’s database. In the case of armed victims, Native Americans were killed by police at a rate three times that of white people (77 total killed). Black people were killed at 2.6 times the rate of white people (1,265 total killed); and Hispanics were killed at nearly 1.3 times the rate of white people (889 total killed). Among unarmed victims, Black people were killed at three times the rate (218 total killed), and Hispanics at 1.45 times the rate of white people (146 total killed).
From Yale University

https://news.yale.edu/2020/10/27/racial ... er-5-years
And yet what our Mr Yale prof. doesn't talk about in the article is the huge difference in police encounters between blacks and whites that escalated into a fatal shooting.
So, I will see your Yale Prof. and raise you the FBI: UCR .. And using their Crime Data Explorer (https://crime-data-explorer.app.cloud.g ... rime-trend) we can see that in 2019 the number of homicide offenders who were listed as black or white is roughly equal at 228k and 224k respectively.
The victims were predominantly white, at 300k, while blacks made up the next largest group at 179k.
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So, blacks and whites are equally likely to be the offenders?
Of course not, blacks make up 14.7% of the US population but by the FBI's data they commit as many homicides as whites. This means a higher percentage of blacks are interacting with police and then this is escalating into a fatal shooting. And as another posted pointed out in a linked article, the number of homicides is set for an historical year on year increase. And on, June 5th in Minnesota, a wanted felon, who was black, opened fire on police officers who were attempting to arrest him for being a wanted felon with a firearm! They returned fire and killed the guy. That night riots broke out protesting the shooting of the guy. They were protesting that a black wanted felon opened fire on police and was killed. Just let that sink in for a moment..... you see this is where America is right now and the sooner China starts a world war the better tbh.
Link to the story about Winston Boogie Smith (the dead felon)
https://www.breitbart.com/law-and-order ... ted-felon/

Anyway....
There is a clear problem of violence in black America that has been linked to the destruction of the black family. Pre-1960 black families were far more stable than whites at the time and the rate of single parent families was about the same for both blacks and whites. Black America was doing really well under Trump, with the number of unemployed blacks reaching all-time lows. It was a good job Bidencame along to set things straight.
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Rule of unintended consequences.

To help the blacks, welfare was introduced. Black families no longer had to stay together to survive. Baby daddies and single mothers became the norm. To end discrimination there was desegregation, which allowed the richer, higher educated blacks to flee the ghettoes. They were the pillars of these communities, providing essential goods and services. These communities collapsed after they left.

What’s the solution?

I haven’t the foggiest clue.

But the woke culture is generating solutions that no one will know what the fallout of those solutions will be until much later on.
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Anyway....
There is a clear problem of violence in black America that has been linked to the destruction of the black family. Pre-1960 black families were far more stable than whites at the time and the rate of single parent families was about the same for both blacks and whites. Black America was doing really well under Trump, with the number of unemployed blacks reaching all-time lows. It was a good job Bidencame along to set things straight.
growing up in DC, i would love to see stats on this, cause it was never as ur statement leads on
I had a few afro american friends and none had a dad, one refused to admit he was black and claimed to be Puerto Rican :-)

Pre 60's blacks were still being lynched in the south
Thats a heavy cross to bear still in the states

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To help the blacks, welfare was introduced.

what fucking planet are u on>??
welfare started in the 30'sduring the great depression to help EVERYONE
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phuketrichard wrote: Sat Jun 26, 2021 9:20 pm
Anyway....
There is a clear problem of violence in black America that has been linked to the destruction of the black family. Pre-1960 black families were far more stable than whites at the time and the rate of single parent families was about the same for both blacks and whites. Black America was doing really well under Trump, with the number of unemployed blacks reaching all-time lows. It was a good job Bidencame along to set things straight.
growing up in DC, i would love to see stats on this, cause it was never as ur statement leads on
I had a few afro american friends and none had a dad, one refused to admit he was black and claimed to be Puerto Rican :-)

Pre 60's blacks were still being lynched in the south
Thats a heavy cross to bear still in the states

NK
To help the blacks, welfare was introduced.

what fucking planet are u on>??
welfare started in the 30'sduring the great depression to help EVERYONE
Here .. try this
https://www.veteranstoday.com/2020/07/0 ... ck-family/
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timmydownawell wrote: Sat Jun 26, 2021 11:40 am
TheImplication wrote: Sat Jun 26, 2021 11:09 am 22 years for being in the wrong place as an addict dies of an overdose while in custody. Sounds excessive, but the pending appeal should throw most of it out.
Too bad Chauvin refused to stop suffocating Floyd long enough to test your theory.
Seeing as though the medical examiner testified there were no signs of blood flow restrictions or airway, the facts conclude GF did not die from anything Chauvin was doing. But that assumes someone using half their body weight on someone’s neck for 9 mins would obviously leave some sort of bruising or skin discoloration on the area where the knee is being placed. But there was no bruising anywhere that would allude to continuous pressure to the neck that would cause incapacitation. The outcome would have been the same had they left him in the back of the police car. But This assumes you can think logically without the woke mentality and decipher that you can’t prove Chauvin was exerting with any certainty the pressure needed except for a few moments during the entire thing.

Was it bad optics and was he an idiot for not getting up when GF became unresponsive? Of course, but it wasn’t murder, just an overdose while in police custody fueling the woke mob who isn’t capable of or unwilling to using any amount of critical thinking to understand the truth. Especially when feelz matter more than justice.
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TheImplication wrote: Sun Jun 27, 2021 2:58 am it wasn’t murder, just an overdose while in police custody fueling the woke mob
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TheImplication wrote: Sun Jun 27, 2021 2:58 am
timmydownawell wrote: Sat Jun 26, 2021 11:40 am
TheImplication wrote: Sat Jun 26, 2021 11:09 am 22 years for being in the wrong place as an addict dies of an overdose while in custody. Sounds excessive, but the pending appeal should throw most of it out.
Too bad Chauvin refused to stop suffocating Floyd long enough to test your theory.
Seeing as though the medical examiner testified there were no signs of blood flow restrictions or airway, the facts conclude GF did not die from anything Chauvin was doing. But that assumes someone using half their body weight on someone’s neck for 9 mins would obviously leave some sort of bruising or skin discoloration on the area where the knee is being placed. But there was no bruising anywhere that would allude to continuous pressure to the neck that would cause incapacitation. The outcome would have been the same had they left him in the back of the police car. But This assumes you can think logically without the woke mentality and decipher that you can’t prove Chauvin was exerting with any certainty the pressure needed except for a few moments during the entire thing.

Was it bad optics and was he an idiot for not getting up when GF became unresponsive? Of course, but it wasn’t murder, just an overdose while in police custody fueling the woke mob who isn’t capable of or unwilling to using any amount of critical thinking to understand the truth. Especially when feelz matter more than justice.
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phuketrichard wrote: Sat Jun 26, 2021 9:20 pm Pre 60's blacks were still being lynched in the south
Thats a heavy cross to bear still in the states
Yes, lynching happened but the numbers do not match the current mythology.

Tuskegee Institute data:
http://law2.umkc.edu/faculty/projects/f ... gyear.html

Lots of Whites also lynched in the beginning:
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Towards the end, the total numbers really dwindled:
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Most lynchings were a form of community law enforcement and those lynched were accused of rape, murder and cattle theft. (Quite a few innocent people were lynched.)
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While I'm at it, apparently not everyone is happy about the GF statues and memorial graffiti.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nat ... 346918001/

One crazy kid went medieval on his ass:

https://nypost.com/2021/05/18/ax-wieldi ... -memorial/
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