In a Cop Culture, the Bill of Rights Doesn’t Amount to Much

phuketrichard · Post by **phuketrichard** » Wed May 06, 2015 7:50 pm

am sure we will hear from our resident "america is fucked" but heres some info to fuel the fire

“In a democratic society,” observed Oakland police chief Sean Whent, “people have a say in how they are policed.”

Unfortunately, if you can be kicked, punched, tasered, shot, intimidated, harassed, stripped, searched, brutalized, terrorized, wrongfully arrested, and even killed by a police officer, and that officer is never held accountable for violating your rights and his oath of office to serve and protect, never forced to make amends, never told that what he did was wrong, and never made to change his modus operandi, then you don’t live in a constitutional republic.

You live in a police state.

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https://www.lewrockwell.com/2015/05/joh ... p-culture/

Sailorman · Post by **Sailorman** » Wed May 06, 2015 8:54 pm

Amen Brother. Been there, had that done to me, got illegally jailed. The peoples time is coming.

Anchor Moy · Post by **Anchor Moy** » Wed May 06, 2015 9:44 pm

phuketrichard wrote:am sure we will hear from our resident "america is fucked" but heres some info to fuel the fire
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https://www.lewrockwell.com/2015/05/joh ... p-culture/

Cool article for those USians who think that their taxes would be wasted on funding education.It is already being wasted.
Educate the police - or pay more to hire better police - cheaper than these lawsuits surely ?
No wonder you don't like paying taxes. Economically, this does not make sense. (Not to mention the rest.)

For example, Baltimore taxpayers have paid roughly $5.7 million since 2011 over lawsuits stemming from police abuses, with an additional $5.8 million going towards legal fees. If the six Baltimore police officers charged with the death of Freddie Gray are convicted, you can rest assured it will be the Baltimore taxpayers who feel the pinch.

New York taxpayers have shelled out almost $1,130 per year per police officer (there are 34,500 officers in the NYPD) to address charges of misconduct. That translates to $38 million every year just to clean up after these so-called public servants.

Over a 10-year-period, Oakland, Calif., taxpayers were made to cough up more than $57 million (curiously enough, the same amount as the city’s deficit back in 2011) in order to settle accounts with alleged victims of police abuse.

Chicago taxpayers were asked to pay out nearly $33 million on one day alone to victims of police misconduct, with one person slated to receive $22.5 million, potentially the largest single amount settled on any one victim. The City has paid more than half a billion dollars to victims over the course of a decade. The Chicago City Council actually had to borrow $100 million just to pay off lawsuits arising over police misconduct in 2013. The city’s payout for 2014 was estimated to be in the same ballpark, especially with cases pending such as the one involving the man who was reportedly sodomized by a police officer’s gun in order to force him to “cooperate.”

Over 78% of the funds paid out by Denver taxpayers over the course of a decade arose as a result of alleged abuse or excessive use of force by the Denver police and sheriff departments. Meanwhile, taxpayers in Ferguson, Missouri, are being asked to pay $40 million in compensation—more than the city’s entire budget

I am not "hating on the US" here, I am just amazed yet again. (Maybe we could rename you United States of Wonder?)

Sailorman · Post by **Sailorman** » Thu May 07, 2015 10:57 am

I love my country, but hate my government (for good reason.) The breaking point is not far and changes are coming. Dr./Congressman Ron Paul says it all in his latest interview.

soup · Post by **soup** » Sun Jan 21, 2018 12:20 am

Kicking life into an old thread...

The police in the USA should have to requalify for the right of being called 'officers of the court', every two years. As it stands, they have more validity in a court of law than normal citizens do.

This is why we hire lawyers because they too are officers of the court. Lawyers have to keep up with continuing education to maintain their law licenses. Why should cops be excluded from this requirement?

The public (Citizen's review board) should also have the right to sit in on the proceedings and render their opinions, too.

tightenupvolume1 · Post by **tightenupvolume1** » Sun Jan 21, 2018 12:28 am

charlie

pczz · Post by **pczz** » Sun Jan 21, 2018 1:38 am

So is it the same in the states as in the uk now? police jobs reserved for returning vets who have been taught to kill first and ask questions afterwards and trained not to question orders, just do what they are told. The british police is becoming a paramilitary force through the back door.

Khartoum · Post by **Khartoum** » Sun Jan 21, 2018 3:22 am

The militarization of what was once 'our' police force, is here and there is no going back. This is the precursor for what's coming. Don't be afraid, be prepared.

soup · Post by **soup** » Sun Jan 21, 2018 5:52 am

Khartoum wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 3:22 am The militarization of what was once 'our' police force, is here and there is no going back. This is the precursor for what's coming. Don't be afraid, be prepared.

Instead of waiting around for the silent engineering of society to be entirely shoved down our throats, the public could and should create proactive vigilance by large, organized groups of people, perhaps with dedicated agendas, rendered in a full court press style on every cop, politician, lobbying group, large corporation, unfair law, and at every corner or turn of events, political or otherwise.

It would be great to have an all-out refusal by all citizens, passively, of course, to participate in anything that monitored activities or was a part of the grid system. This would take an entire re-engineering of society as we know it. The people would have to actually become part of the governance of their country.

I know I'm just dreaming, spitting in the wind, pissing up a rope or (fit analogy here) but The USA is, theoretically, an argumentative 'democracy', so let the citizens arguing begin! Every idiot knows the politicians, bankers, corp.'s have had their say.

Until then, I'll be hangin' in a 'shithole' country.

phuketrichard · Post by **phuketrichard** » Sun Jan 21, 2018 9:40 am

My signature;

In a nation run by swine, all pigs are upward-mobile and the rest of us are fucked until we can put our acts together: not necessarily to win, but mainly to keep from losing completely. HST

and this one;

America... just a nation of two hundred million used car salesmen with all the money we need to buy guns and no qualms about killing anybody else in the world who tries to make us uncomfortable.

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