China lays ever larger claim to South China Sea

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phuketrichard wrote: Wed Apr 22, 2020 8:38 am with most of the world locked down and having to devote much of its time,energy and $$ to the pandemic
China pushes forward towards its global plan ;-(
To project strength at home and exploit an unprecedented security vacuum caused by the Covid-19 pandemic, China is doubling down on its expansive claims to the contested South China Sea.

China’s State Council, the country’s chief administrative authority, announced in recent days the establishment of two new administrative districts in the South China Sea.

Chinese state media dubbed the little noticed distinction as a “major administrative move”, one that could put Beijing on a new collision course with rival claimants in the maritime area.

....In that direction, Beijing introduced on April 18 the Xisha and Nansha districts under the aegis of Sansha City, itself a new prefecture-level unity first established in 2012 on the Woody (Yongxing) Island in the sea’s Paracel island chain that China contests with Vietnam.

Host to 1,800 permanent residents, Sansha covers around two million square kilometers of contested waters, rich maritime resources and a host of low-tide elevations, atolls, islets, rocks and artificial islands.
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https://asiatimes.com/2020/04/china-lay ... d7ff190aa4
These BASTARDS are colonizing the world ! Asia is Victim already!
Boycott them ! Nothing else we can do to (maybe) stop them !
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alexvanlaar wrote: Thu Apr 23, 2020 8:57 am These BASTARDS are colonizing the world ! Asia is Victim already!
Boycott them ! Nothing else we can do to (maybe) stop them !
every nation in history that has the chance has done it

this will bethe worst
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Duncan wrote: Thu Apr 23, 2020 8:18 am
BR549 wrote: Thu Apr 23, 2020 7:08 am The USA has 12 nuclear air craft carriers....
How many does china have?
Trump has rebuilt the US military by leveraging 5 trillion dollars. There has been no abandonment by the USA...no weakening. Massive strengthening and innovation.
There are tens of thousands of troops in Korea and Japan. New deals have been worked out to ensure troop levels are maintained with the host nations paying more for their protection.
To be cutting edge The USA has The Space Force launching into action as new super sonic weapons and space become areas of scrutiny.
The USA is going back to the moon and beyond with a new program looking at mining asteroids and the possible rare Earth materials they contain.
The US Navy and Coast Guard are at work on a new
mission to stop narcotics and human trafficking on the high seas. The fentanyl from china is still flowing and it must be stopped before it reaches the shores.
It is not the fault of the USA that people self castrated and got on their knees.
The carbon footprint of the USA continues to go down as its productivity increases.....while china leads the world in polluting and warming the planet.
The wuhan china virus will be dealt with.
Your numbskull logic that Trump is going to warm up the planet and drown the chinese fails to take into consideration the facts of who is polluting the planet.
They would be drowning themselves.
Quote ] The USA has 12 nuclear air craft carriers....
How many does china have?

They dont need any. They have more than 12 supersonic missiles that don't come in at a low angle that can be shot at , but from directly above and impossible to detect. Can radar systems in a ship detect incoming from directly above ?
LOL.....spoken like you beleive the Chinazi propaganda. Hey here is a sad fact for you. Ships move. The ship you aimed at hasnt been there for an hour.

And yes, we can easily detect their so called stealth missles. They came from those smoking holes over there, too bad they couldnt move too.
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WildA wrote: Thu Apr 23, 2020 5:53 pm
Duncan wrote: Thu Apr 23, 2020 8:18 am
BR549 wrote: Thu Apr 23, 2020 7:08 am The USA has 12 nuclear air craft carriers....
How many does china have?
Trump has rebuilt the US military by leveraging 5 trillion dollars. There has been no abandonment by the USA...no weakening. Massive strengthening and innovation.
There are tens of thousands of troops in Korea and Japan. New deals have been worked out to ensure troop levels are maintained with the host nations paying more for their protection.
To be cutting edge The USA has The Space Force launching into action as new super sonic weapons and space become areas of scrutiny.
The USA is going back to the moon and beyond with a new program looking at mining asteroids and the possible rare Earth materials they contain.
The US Navy and Coast Guard are at work on a new
mission to stop narcotics and human trafficking on the high seas. The fentanyl from china is still flowing and it must be stopped before it reaches the shores.
It is not the fault of the USA that people self castrated and got on their knees.
The carbon footprint of the USA continues to go down as its productivity increases.....while china leads the world in polluting and warming the planet.
The wuhan china virus will be dealt with.
Your numbskull logic that Trump is going to warm up the planet and drown the chinese fails to take into consideration the facts of who is polluting the planet.
They would be drowning themselves.
Quote ] The USA has 12 nuclear air craft carriers....
How many does china have?

They dont need any. They have more than 12 supersonic missiles that don't come in at a low angle that can be shot at , but from directly above and impossible to detect. Can radar systems in a ship detect incoming from directly above ?
LOL.....spoken like you beleive the Chinazi propaganda. Hey here is a sad fact for you. Ships move. The ship you aimed at hasnt been there for an hour.

And yes, we can easily detect their so called stealth missles. They came from those smoking holes over there, too bad they couldnt move too.

Someone here has not kept up with modern technology and developments. As for those ''smoking holes '' its a bit late to aim a missile at a smoking hole.
Cambodia,,,, Don't fall in love with her.
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BR549 wrote: Thu Apr 23, 2020 7:08 am The USA has 12 nuclear air craft carriers....
How many does china have?
Trump has rebuilt the US military by leveraging 5 trillion dollars. There has been no abandonment by the USA...no weakening. Massive strengthening and innovation.
There are tens of thousands of troops in Korea and Japan. New deals have been worked out to ensure troop levels are maintained with the host nations paying more for their protection.
To be cutting edge The USA has The Space Force launching into action as new super sonic weapons and space become areas of scrutiny.
The USA is going back to the moon and beyond with a new program looking at mining asteroids and the possible rare Earth materials they contain.
The US Navy and Coast Guard are at work on a new
mission to stop narcotics and human trafficking on the high seas. The fentanyl from china is still flowing and it must be stopped before it reaches the shores.
It is not the fault of the USA that people self castrated and got on their knees.
The carbon footprint of the USA continues to go down as its productivity increases.....while china leads the world in polluting and warming the planet.
The wuhan china virus will be dealt with.
Your numbskull logic that Trump is going to warm up the planet and drown the chinese fails to take into consideration the facts of who is polluting the planet.
They would be drowning themselves.
^^^^
China … is still emitting the CFCs that the world banned 30 years ago.
https://www.sciencenews.org/article/emi ... aced-china

Does anyone seriously anyone think they are going to genuinely reduce CO2 emissions?
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Duncan wrote: Thu Apr 23, 2020 6:07 pm
WildA wrote: Thu Apr 23, 2020 5:53 pm
Duncan wrote: Thu Apr 23, 2020 8:18 am
BR549 wrote: Thu Apr 23, 2020 7:08 am The USA has 12 nuclear air craft carriers....
How many does china have?
Trump has rebuilt the US military by leveraging 5 trillion dollars. There has been no abandonment by the USA...no weakening. Massive strengthening and innovation.
There are tens of thousands of troops in Korea and Japan. New deals have been worked out to ensure troop levels are maintained with the host nations paying more for their protection.
To be cutting edge The USA has The Space Force launching into action as new super sonic weapons and space become areas of scrutiny.
The USA is going back to the moon and beyond with a new program looking at mining asteroids and the possible rare Earth materials they contain.
The US Navy and Coast Guard are at work on a new
mission to stop narcotics and human trafficking on the high seas. The fentanyl from china is still flowing and it must be stopped before it reaches the shores.
It is not the fault of the USA that people self castrated and got on their knees.
The carbon footprint of the USA continues to go down as its productivity increases.....while china leads the world in polluting and warming the planet.
The wuhan china virus will be dealt with.
Your numbskull logic that Trump is going to warm up the planet and drown the chinese fails to take into consideration the facts of who is polluting the planet.
They would be drowning themselves.
Quote ] The USA has 12 nuclear air craft carriers....
How many does china have?

They dont need any. They have more than 12 supersonic missiles that don't come in at a low angle that can be shot at , but from directly above and impossible to detect. Can radar systems in a ship detect incoming from directly above ?
LOL.....spoken like you beleive the Chinazi propaganda. Hey here is a sad fact for you. Ships move. The ship you aimed at hasnt been there for an hour.

And yes, we can easily detect their so called stealth missles. They came from those smoking holes over there, too bad they couldnt move too.

Someone here has not kept up with modern technology and developments. As for those ''smoking holes '' its a bit late to aim a missile at a smoking hole.
Well you can do the math yourslf. Take a DF-21 Anti ship missle, with a range of 2000 miles, and a speed of 700 mph. Aim it at a carrier at max range, that means about 3 hours to get to a target. if its a big fat juicy carrier, its rolling at 30 mph. Therefore, the target, still moving, is 90 miles away from where it was when your satellite spotted it.

We learn as kids, when we get our first gun at say age 5 or 6, that its easier to hit a static target than a moving one.
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WildA wrote: Fri Apr 24, 2020 8:08 am
Duncan wrote: Thu Apr 23, 2020 6:07 pm
WildA wrote: Thu Apr 23, 2020 5:53 pm
Duncan wrote: Thu Apr 23, 2020 8:18 am
BR549 wrote: Thu Apr 23, 2020 7:08 am The USA has 12 nuclear air craft carriers....
How many does china have?
Trump has rebuilt the US military by leveraging 5 trillion dollars. There has been no abandonment by the USA...no weakening. Massive strengthening and innovation.
There are tens of thousands of troops in Korea and Japan. New deals have been worked out to ensure troop levels are maintained with the host nations paying more for their protection.
To be cutting edge The USA has The Space Force launching into action as new super sonic weapons and space become areas of scrutiny.
The USA is going back to the moon and beyond with a new program looking at mining asteroids and the possible rare Earth materials they contain.
The US Navy and Coast Guard are at work on a new
mission to stop narcotics and human trafficking on the high seas. The fentanyl from china is still flowing and it must be stopped before it reaches the shores.
It is not the fault of the USA that people self castrated and got on their knees.
The carbon footprint of the USA continues to go down as its productivity increases.....while china leads the world in polluting and warming the planet.
The wuhan china virus will be dealt with.
Your numbskull logic that Trump is going to warm up the planet and drown the chinese fails to take into consideration the facts of who is polluting the planet.
They would be drowning themselves.
Quote ] The USA has 12 nuclear air craft carriers....
How many does china have?

They dont need any. They have more than 12 supersonic missiles that don't come in at a low angle that can be shot at , but from directly above and impossible to detect. Can radar systems in a ship detect incoming from directly above ?
LOL.....spoken like you beleive the Chinazi propaganda. Hey here is a sad fact for you. Ships move. The ship you aimed at hasnt been there for an hour.

And yes, we can easily detect their so called stealth missles. They came from those smoking holes over there, too bad they couldnt move too.

Someone here has not kept up with modern technology and developments. As for those ''smoking holes '' its a bit late to aim a missile at a smoking hole.
Well you can do the math yourslf. Take a DF-21 Anti ship missle, with a range of 2000 miles, and a speed of 700 mph. Aim it at a carrier at max range, that means about 3 hours to get to a target. if its a big fat juicy carrier, its rolling at 30 mph. Therefore, the target, still moving, is 90 miles away from where it was when your satellite spotted it.

We learn as kids, when we get our first gun at say age 5 or 6, that its easier to hit a static target than a moving one.



I learnt on the clay bird shooting range, along with on the field when pheasant and duck shooting that you swing your weapon on the same track as your target ,,, giving it '' leed '' , depending on speed and distance, before firing your weapon . Some targets never stand still just waiting for you to decide the right moment . Yes , ships and planes never stand still . Do you thing weapons of war are ''dumb '' weapons.
Cambodia,,,, Don't fall in love with her.
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i saw some missiles chines or russian missiles credited with a speed of thousands of kmh 700 mph is slow
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Wait ... so the Chinese never thought to put guidance and targeting shit in these missiles?

Even the navy has gone on record as saying they are carrier killers.
Which leads one to consider if this statement was designed to instil a sense of complacency in the Chinese, while the US developed weapons to counter them. Seems like a decent strategy, to let your enemy think they have a weapon you can’t defend against. Until they use it and discover them not to be as great as they thought.
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I hate to war game it for you guys, but the island fortress concept died in 1945. Do your own research and run your own algorithyms. Im fairly confident that China will not be close to matching the USA in naval capbilities for 20 plus years, but hey, some folks get seduced by the party line.
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