Cadbury's attempts to own inclusiveness

Anthony's Weiner · Post by **Anthony's Weiner** » Thu Apr 11, 2019 4:56 pm

The Halal food market (worldwide) will reach 740 billion USD by 2025. Cadbury employs 2300 Australians. I fail to see the benefit of limiting the opportunities of these people in a kneejerk response to a "fake" webpage. Hysteria is contagious, just ask the 19 "witches" hung by their neck in Salem Mass.

SternAAlbifrons · Post by **SternAAlbifrons** » Thu Apr 11, 2019 5:23 pm

StroppyChops wrote: ↑Thu Apr 11, 2019 4:11 pm
SternAAlbifrons wrote: ↑Thu Apr 11, 2019 3:18 pm In May 2015, the Australian Senate announced it would inquire into "third-party certification of food" with one of the terms of reference being an examination of Australian food certification schemes, and certifiers, including those related to halal foods.

The inquiry's final report was released on 1 December 2015.

""The inquiry examined claims that fees charged by halal certifiers are used to fund terrorism and found that no evidence supports them.
The inquiry determined that halal fees are not used to support organised crime in Australia.
The inquiry concluded that the fees do not increase the cost of food to Australians, and that the availability of halal certification allows Australian exporters to access very large international markets.""
Research funded by child-sponsorship companies found that child sponsorship benefits children, too.

True. So what?

Those were the findings of a Senate inquiry.
Independent and trustworthy - Unless you are paranoid islamaphobic conspiracy theorist.
(which is OK of course, here at multicultural CEO - just stupid)

tightenupvolume1 · Post by **tightenupvolume1** » Thu Apr 11, 2019 5:30 pm

What exactly is an Islamaphobe ?

Charlie

StroppyChops · Post by **StroppyChops** » Thu Apr 11, 2019 5:38 pm

SternAAlbifrons wrote: ↑Thu Apr 11, 2019 5:23 pm
StroppyChops wrote: ↑Thu Apr 11, 2019 4:11 pm
SternAAlbifrons wrote: ↑Thu Apr 11, 2019 3:18 pm In May 2015, the Australian Senate announced it would inquire into "third-party certification of food" with one of the terms of reference being an examination of Australian food certification schemes, and certifiers, including those related to halal foods.

The inquiry's final report was released on 1 December 2015.

""The inquiry examined claims that fees charged by halal certifiers are used to fund terrorism and found that no evidence supports them.
The inquiry determined that halal fees are not used to support organised crime in Australia.
The inquiry concluded that the fees do not increase the cost of food to Australians, and that the availability of halal certification allows Australian exporters to access very large international markets.""
Research funded by child-sponsorship companies found that child sponsorship benefits children, too.
True. So what?

Those were the findings of a Senate inquiry.
Independent and trustworthy - Unless you are paranoid islamaphobic conspiracy theorist.
(which is OK of course, here at multicultural CEO - just stupid)

I'm sure you didn't miss the irony in my response, and nor do I think you're simple enough to believe in independent trustworthy senate inquiries.

I am surprised, however, to see such a poor attempt at a false dichotomy logical fallacy - if you don't believe an independent and trustworthy senate inquiry, you must be an islamophobic conspiracy theorist... really? Those are the only two options?

tightenupvolume1 · Post by **tightenupvolume1** » Thu Apr 11, 2019 5:40 pm

SternAAlbifrons · Post by **SternAAlbifrons** » Thu Apr 11, 2019 6:03 pm

tightenupvolume1 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 11, 2019 5:30 pm What exactly is an Islamaphobe ?

Charlie

"Irrational fear" "hatred" "bigotry" "prejudice" "intolerance" That kinda stuff

The word Islamophobia is a neologism formed from Islam and -phobia.
Irrational fear of, aversion to, or discrimination against Islam or people who practice Islam.
..Anti-Muslimism, intolerance against Muslims, anti-Muslim prejudice, anti-Muslim bigotry, hatred of Muslims, anti-Islamism, demonisation of Islam, demonisation of Muslims...

The loonysville anti halal certification campaign is well within these commonly accepted definitions of Islamophobia.

tightenupvolume1 · Post by **tightenupvolume1** » Thu Apr 11, 2019 6:55 pm

Are there any other religions/philosophies/ political systems with their own word for people who do not like them? I am not a bigot or racist but i do not like Islam, i also don't like communism, socialism,or christianity but thats ok i am allowed to do that without beong labelled. As for phobia ie a fear of something then yes i fear Islam as it gains any more influence in my country, soon i will criminalised for being critical of it. They are already trying to bring in laws to prevent criticism of islam, some state schools in the north of england are seperating girls and boys and refusing to teach evolution, the private maddrases are teaching young kids to hate jews and telling them not to integrate in the degenerate and wicked west.

"The strange death of europe" a book by Douglas Murray puts few thing into perspective

Charlie

tightenupvolume1 · Post by **tightenupvolume1** » Thu Apr 11, 2019 7:06 pm

SternAAlbifrons · Post by **SternAAlbifrons** » Thu Apr 11, 2019 7:18 pm

StroppyChops wrote: ↑Thu Apr 11, 2019 5:38 pm
SternAAlbifrons wrote: ↑Thu Apr 11, 2019 5:23 pm
StroppyChops wrote: ↑Thu Apr 11, 2019 4:11 pm
SternAAlbifrons wrote: ↑Thu Apr 11, 2019 3:18 pm
I'm sure you didn't miss the irony in my response, and nor do I think you're simple enough to believe in independent trustworthy senate inquiries.

I am surprised, however, to see such a poor attempt at a false dichotomy logical fallacy - if you don't believe an independent and trustworthy senate inquiry, you must be an islamophobic conspiracy theorist... really? Those are the only two options?
I bow to your intellectual integrity Stroppy Chops.
I have to, being a stickler for that kind of stuff myself.
But I still gotta defend my case of course.

Yes, I did appreciate the irony. "Independent and trustworthy" doesn't usually rhyme with "senate inquiry".
But australian senate inquiries are actually a pretty good place to get reasonably trustworthy assessments about things like this. Certainly more trustworthy that the document I was debunking.
Australian politicians have very little tolerance for terrorism in the supermarket shelves, and some of them were looking very hard to find any evidence. They didn't.

A false dichotomy is an ugly thing, I agree. But maybe you can be generous with me in this case because I was actually responding to a document which is so obviously part the whole islamaphobic conspiracy-theory movement.

I am not sure that all readers will be aware that in Australia, the tiny vocal extreme-end of the anti-Muslim movement has attempted to make the halal certification issue one of their battle grounds.
Facts don't matter, nor the actual issue. It is being used as a vehicle to incite suspicion, fear and hatred.
That is what I am calling it out.

If anybody does not accept that Islamaphobia is real, or that it needs to be challenged, that is fine. I'm not going to knock myself out arguing first principals with people I regard as silly old dumfunkenbloody fools.

tightenupvolume1 · Post by **tightenupvolume1** » Thu Apr 11, 2019 7:18 pm

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opin ... s-of-islam

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