Is Australian govt deliberately over-reacting ?

Anchor Moy · Post by **Anchor Moy** » Thu Sep 25, 2014 4:16 pm

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world ... 54003.html

Could it be that security risks are being played up in order to curb basic rights in Australia ?
Big news about 800 officers in raids on "terrorists", where 2 people are finally arrested - 1 of whom is out on bail.(He had a stun gun in his home.) A mentally-disturbed teenager with a Daesch flag and a knife is shot dead. Laws are being passed for Australians' "security".

The Prime Minister warned Australians last week that “the delicate balance between freedom and security may have to shift”. The “darkening” situation, as he called it, is doing him no harm politically. The government’s popularity rating is at a five-month high.

Add some public hysteria into the mix:

Three rugby league fans “of Middle Eastern appearance” were detained at a match after a spectator reported that they were using their phones in a suspicious manner.

Whatever next?

frank lee bent · Post by **frank lee bent** » Thu Sep 25, 2014 4:23 pm

StroppyChops · Post by **StroppyChops** » Thu Sep 25, 2014 4:31 pm

The mentally disturbed teenager was shot dead as he was in the act of repeatedly knifing a AFP officer in the neck and chest...

Anchor Moy · Post by **Anchor Moy** » Thu Sep 25, 2014 6:09 pm

StroppyChops wrote:The mentally disturbed teenager was shot dead as he was in the act of repeatedly knifing a AFP officer in the neck and chest...

Sure, could happen anywhere. In GB for example. But, seriously, is a lone deranged teenager in a shopping centre a reason to suspect imminent terrorist attacks ?

What had raised the concerns of police, said the Victoria Police Chief Commissioner, Ken Lay, were reports of the teenager brandishing what appeared to be an Isis flag in a shopping centre. “It’s not an offence, but clearly it drew our attention to this person,” he said. “We made the decision we needed to talk to him a little more about what his thoughts and motivations might be.”

In the car park the two officers approached Mr Haider at about 7.45pm. One went to shake his hand. The young man pulled a knife and stabbed him in the arm, then turned on the other officer, stabbing him in the head, neck and stomach. The first officer then shot him dead. Both officers are in hospital, one in a serious but stable condition.

It's not so much the event (knifing followed by shooting) that perturbs me; it's the interpretation of the event. Does one lone nutter mean the whole country should be on alert?

Joker Poker · Post by **Joker Poker** » Thu Sep 25, 2014 7:09 pm

Hands up if you knew it was a mistake letting these guys in the country in the first place.

I don't suppose that anyone will ever apologise for it, but anyone with half a functioning brain knew that opening the front door was a pretty bloody stupid idea.

StroppyChops · Post by **StroppyChops** » Thu Sep 25, 2014 10:01 pm

Anchor Moy wrote:
StroppyChops wrote:The mentally disturbed teenager was shot dead as he was in the act of repeatedly knifing a AFP officer in the neck and chest...
Sure, could happen anywhere. In GB for example. But, seriously, is a lone deranged teenager in a shopping centre a reason to suspect imminent terrorist attacks ?

I haven't been watching it that closely but I believe the threat risk was raised before the teenager incident, and there is clearly more intel on this guy than what is being released in the media...

Duncan · Post by **Duncan** » Fri Sep 26, 2014 5:22 am

StroppyChops wrote:
Anchor Moy wrote:
StroppyChops wrote:The mentally disturbed teenager was shot dead as he was in the act of repeatedly knifing a AFP officer in the neck and chest...
Sure, could happen anywhere. In GB for example. But, seriously, is a lone deranged teenager in a shopping centre a reason to suspect imminent terrorist attacks ?
I haven't been watching it that closely

but I believe the threat risk was raised before the teenager incident, and there is clearly more intel on this guy than what is being released in the media...

No more ABC, How are you going to watch it now ?

StroppyChops · Post by **StroppyChops** » Fri Sep 26, 2014 10:25 am

ABC Online

Anchor Moy · Post by **Anchor Moy** » Fri Sep 26, 2014 4:45 pm

Well, for whatever reason, soe Australians seem to be behaving very strangely :
http://www.news.com.au/national/defence ... 7071375493

Apologies to Hunter S. - rather than the "weird turning pro", in this case the pros are turning weird.

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