Attack on Saudi refinery

frank lee bent · Post by **frank lee bent** » Tue Sep 17, 2019 10:26 am

It's about the only way to bolster his approval.

SternAAlbifrons · Post by **SternAAlbifrons** » Tue Sep 17, 2019 10:59 am

Billions and billions and billions spent on defence, particularly air defence,
and some tribesmen from the most fucked over, two bit, patch of rock and desert on earth, can still fly in these drones and destroy half of Saudi's oil refining capacity.
WTF!!??

This goes way beyond 911 for evasion of traditional defence systems,
by its simplicity and use of cheap, risk free assets.
Have stocks in all the major defence manufactures just plummeted on this news?
Superseded, it would seem, by Cheap Charlie dime store stuff.

No wonder all the rich people hate "terrorists" so much - asymmetric warfare must be real bitch for the bullies.

(PS, a child dies or is killed every 9 minutes in tiny war-torn Yemen)

phuketrichard · Post by **phuketrichard** » Tue Sep 17, 2019 11:55 am

another interesting idea;

It is growing more certain that the attacks on the Khurais oil field and the Abqaiq oil processing center in Saudi Arabia were launched from southern Iraq and not from Yemen by the Houthis. This was made clear by Secretary of State Mike Pompeo who said: “There is no evidence the attacks came from Yemen.”

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There are a number of Iranian-guided Shia militias in Iraq that have received drones from Iran. Former senior Iraqi officials in Washington, who are opponents of the current Iraqi government they view as compromised by Iran, believe the likely culprit is Harakat Hezbollah al-Nujaba (Movement of the Party of God’s Nobles). Hezbollah al-Nujaba had been heavily involved in the fighting in Syria and has received from Iran and operated a drone called the Yasir UAV (drone), based on the US Boeing-Insitu ScanEagle.

https://www.asiatimes.com/2019/09/artic ... from-iraq/

Anthony's Weiner · Post by **Anthony's Weiner** » Tue Sep 17, 2019 12:05 pm

The government of Saudi Arabia owns the entire 45th floor of tRump tower. People connected to Russia or former Soviet republics have paid cash for 86 tRump-branded properties, a total of $109 million, with many of them using shell companies I try to get along with my neighbours too, I watch out for them, unfortunately, it means letting them know when their cows are on the road or that they have left the gate to their frog pond open.

The Saudis are committing war crimes in Yemen and the Russians in Syria.

The Saudi-led bombing campaign in North Yemen primarily relies on three types of aircraft: American F-15s, British EF-2000 Typhoons, and European Tornado fighters. The Saudis fly American Apache and Black Hawk helicopters into Yemen from military bases in Saudi Arabia, as well as the French AS-532 Cougar. They have lined the Saudi-Yemen border with American Abrams and French AMX 30 tanks, reinforced by at least five types of Western-made artillery guns. And the coalition blockade, which is aimed at cutting off aid to the Houthi rebels but has also interfered with humanitarian aid shipments, relies on U.S., French, and German models of attack ships with, as well as two types of French naval helicopters.
https://theintercept.com/2019/04/15/sau ... us-france/

Western leaders, not just American are complicit.

SternAAlbifrons · Post by **SternAAlbifrons** » Tue Sep 17, 2019 12:38 pm

Hey! don't forget Australia. ^^
(and don't forget NZ does Not)

Mr. Yuck · Post by **Mr. Yuck** » Tue Sep 17, 2019 1:06 pm

Meanwhile Qatar just

Felgerkarb · Post by **Felgerkarb** » Tue Sep 17, 2019 3:10 pm

/facepalm

armchairlawyer · Post by **armchairlawyer** » Tue Sep 17, 2019 3:21 pm

Meanwhile, in Asia. Every country is a net importer of oil except for Malaysia. From the lovely Trinh Nguyen's twitter feed (great if you want to follow Asian economic data):
Bottom line: China, Japan and South Korea are the biggest importers of essentials in Asia.
In the event of an oil shock, China, Japan and India most affected. In an event of a food shock, China, Japan and Korea (also HK) most affected.

cptrelentless · Post by **cptrelentless** » Tue Sep 17, 2019 4:43 pm

@realDonaldTrump
Saudi Arabia should fight their own wars, which they won't, or pay us an absolute fortune to protect them and their great wealth-$ trillion!

2:56 PM - 31 Aug 2014

SternAAlbifrons · Post by **SternAAlbifrons** » Wed Sep 18, 2019 6:37 am

Drones - the AK47 of the new era.

"As technologies continue to mature and prices drop, the use of such platforms by insurgents, terrorists, and even political protestors, will continue apace.

While many states have sought to counter this threat through expensive and high-tech means, the fundamentally low bar of entry for drones means that, like the Kalashnikov before them, they will persist as an effective and evolving tool of asymmetrical violence and threat well into the future."

Ben Rich is a lecturer at Curtin University specialising in terrorism, insurgency and political violence in the Middle East.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-09-18/ ... s/11520196

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