Another mid eastern country (Syria) in trouble

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angsta wrote: Mon Dec 09, 2024 11:46 pm
total nutter wrote: Mon Dec 09, 2024 7:03 am
angsta wrote: Sun Dec 08, 2024 10:24 pm


Come in peace. Or leave in pieces?
Reminds me of the peace in our time bullshit. A genocidal fascist maniac was involved there, too.
How can you doubt this mans authenticity? He's offering an olive branch to a bunch of religious lunatics. Stay strong!
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So far so good though no guarantee how long the honeymoon will last. Can expect Iran to put pressure on the new govt. via Hezbolloxs and the Kurds will be wanting some of the action as well.
Hope to be proved wrong but I see a bad moon on the rise.
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netanyahu sends hand of peace to syria and than at the same tiime
bombs them

Israel strikes sites inside Syria with heavy bombs, bunker-busting munitions: Israeli media
Israeli army carried out dozens of airstrikes across Syria targeting around 100 sites following Assad’s fall, according to Israeli media

Israeli warplanes struck sites inside Syria with one-ton bombs and bunker-busting munitions, Israeli media reported on Monday.

According to Israel’s Army Radio, the army is working on destroying "every potential military targets" of the ousted regime of Bashar al-Assad, including tanks, warplanes, intelligence headquarters and advanced military equipment.

On Sunday, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu announced the collapse of a UN-monitored disengagement agreement, which established a buffer zone between Israel and Syria after Syrian regime forces withdrew from the area following the fall of Assad’s regime.

The Israeli army acknowledges that its forces have advanced several kilometers into the demilitarized buffer zone in the occupied Syrian Golan Heights, but claims that it has no intention to advance further, the radio said.
Israel also captured control of a buffer zone within the Golan Heights, the first time they’ve captured territory in Syria since the war in 1973.

The Israel Defense Forces (IDF) moved in on Sunday and told residents to remain in their homes until further notice. They said they needed to capture the territory to ensure border security.
https://www.aa.com.tr/en/middle-east/is ... ia/3419199

and not only Israel bombing them
The fall of Syrian dictator Bashar al-Assad, the culmination of years of civil war, has given way to a power vacuum with different factions protecting their own interests – and vying for power in the Middle Eastern nation.

The U.S., worried about the resurgence of an ISIS stronghold, has struck targets associated with the Islamic State in central Syria.

Turkey, which controls a zone of Syria on its northern border, has continued to attack U.S.-backed Kurdish forces.
whose in control?
HTS was the key faction behind the fall of Damascus and the fleeing of Assad, and now controls the capital city. But the Islamist militant group is far from a U.S. ally – its leader, Abu Mohammed al-Golani, has a $10 million U.S. bounty on his head and has been designated a terrorist since 2013. The group governed just a sliver of northwest Syria in Idlib.

..
The U.N., U.S. and Turkey all designate HTS as a terrorist organization. The group, in recent years, has worked to soften its image and lobbied to be delisted as a terrorist group, highlighting its government services in Idlib and promising to protect religious and cultural sites, even churches, in Aleppo.


https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/he ... r-AA1vyAWs

Another mess in the middle east>
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phuketrichard wrote: Tue Dec 10, 2024 7:37 am netanyahu sends hand of peace to syria and than at the same tiime
bombs them

Israel strikes sites inside Syria with heavy bombs, bunker-busting munitions: Israeli media
Israeli army carried out dozens of airstrikes across Syria targeting around 100 sites following Assad’s fall, according to Israeli media

Israeli warplanes struck sites inside Syria with one-ton bombs and bunker-busting munitions, Israeli media reported on Monday.

According to Israel’s Army Radio, the army is working on destroying "every potential military targets" of the ousted regime of Bashar al-Assad, including tanks, warplanes, intelligence headquarters and advanced military equipment.

On Sunday, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu announced the collapse of a UN-monitored disengagement agreement, which established a buffer zone between Israel and Syria after Syrian regime forces withdrew from the area following the fall of Assad’s regime.

The Israeli army acknowledges that its forces have advanced several kilometers into the demilitarized buffer zone in the occupied Syrian Golan Heights, but claims that it has no intention to advance further, the radio said.
Israel also captured control of a buffer zone within the Golan Heights, the first time they’ve captured territory in Syria since the war in 1973.

The Israel Defense Forces (IDF) moved in on Sunday and told residents to remain in their homes until further notice. They said they needed to capture the territory to ensure border security.
https://www.aa.com.tr/en/middle-east/is ... ia/3419199

and not only Israel bombing them
The fall of Syrian dictator Bashar al-Assad, the culmination of years of civil war, has given way to a power vacuum with different factions protecting their own interests – and vying for power in the Middle Eastern nation.

The U.S., worried about the resurgence of an ISIS stronghold, has struck targets associated with the Islamic State in central Syria.

Turkey, which controls a zone of Syria on its northern border, has continued to attack U.S.-backed Kurdish forces.
whose in control?
HTS was the key faction behind the fall of Damascus and the fleeing of Assad, and now controls the capital city. But the Islamist militant group is far from a U.S. ally – its leader, Abu Mohammed al-Golani, has a $10 million U.S. bounty on his head and has been designated a terrorist since 2013. The group governed just a sliver of northwest Syria in Idlib.

..
The U.N., U.S. and Turkey all designate HTS as a terrorist organization. The group, in recent years, has worked to soften its image and lobbied to be delisted as a terrorist group, highlighting its government services in Idlib and promising to protect religious and cultural sites, even churches, in Aleppo.


https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/he ... r-AA1vyAWs

Another mess in the middle east>
They are taking this opportunity to pre-emptively defang what is more than likely to become a huge country on its border run by a bunch of fundamentalist Islamic lunatics hell-bent on killing everyone who isn't just like them. Why would they sit idly and allow all this military hardware to fall into the hands of such people?

In that part of the world, the price of pacifism is annihilation.
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Roryborealis wrote: Mon Dec 09, 2024 5:08 pm
total nutter wrote: Mon Dec 09, 2024 6:55 am
angsta wrote: Sat Dec 07, 2024 9:31 pm All these problems in the Middle East. If only there was a common factor that linked all these religious lunatics? I just can't put my finger on it... Nope. Can't think of anything.
Meddling by nations hungry for oil?

The Sunni-Shiite split was engineered by whom? Do you even know? And to what end? What we see now.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zbigniew_Brzezinski

If you are going to talk junk, at least talk semi-knowledgeable junk.

A Wat Phnom monkey can post hateful bias.
How exactly did Zbigniew Brzezinski "engineer" the disagreement about Muhammad's successor in June 632?
He didn't, obviously. He did engineer and foment the rivalry between the 2 groups much later to suit Murika's foreign policy which concerns itself largely with oil resources using the divide and rule principle. crayons coming, be patient. Have you never heard of any politician exploiting potential situations? Wait, I'll get my crayons.
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angsta wrote: Mon Dec 09, 2024 9:19 pm
total nutter wrote: Mon Dec 09, 2024 6:55 am
angsta wrote: Sat Dec 07, 2024 9:31 pm All these problems in the Middle East. If only there was a common factor that linked all these religious lunatics? I just can't put my finger on it... Nope. Can't think of anything.
Meddling by nations hungry for oil?

The Sunni-Shiite split was engineered by whom? Do you even know? And to what end? What we see now.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zbigniew_Brzezinski

If you are going to talk junk, at least talk semi-knowledgeable junk.

A Wat Phnom monkey can post hateful bias.
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Something tells me you aren't a history major. This is a thousand + year old problem. You can't blame Team America for this one.
Meddled in by whom? Team Murika. Get it? Something tells me you aren't a logic or awareness of sequence/ cause and effect major.
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They are taking this opportunity to pre-emptively defang what is more than likely to become a huge country on its border run by a bunch of fundamentalist Islamic lunatics hell-bent on killing everyone who isn't just like them. Why would they sit idly and allow all this military hardware to fall into the hands of such people?
to some extent i agree, take out the chance of them coming after you later (also get some additional land for the Israeli settlers)
BUT why stop there?
why not just kill every male child before they grow up and become a terrorist?

what/who gives anyone the right to preemptive strikes against another country?
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phuketrichard wrote: Tue Dec 10, 2024 2:29 pm


why not just kill every male child before they grow up and become a terrorist?

what/who gives anyone the right to preemptive strikes against another country?
How may countries have bombed Syria in the last 7 days? Spoiler alert: The number is more than 1 and less than 7. Which is the ONLY COUNTRY that Richard has mentioned. The ONLY ONE he ever mentions. We all know why. This is Muslims killing 600,000+ other Muslims. 600,000. And not a bad word said. Have you seen the state of that jail run by Muslims to kill and torture thousand of other Muslims? Not a single comment, interesting. I wonder why (I know why). Israel blows up a munitions dump and some missiles so they can't be used against Israel and here he goes with it's all genocide again. Embarrassing.
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phuketrichard wrote: Tue Dec 10, 2024 2:29 pm
They are taking this opportunity to pre-emptively defang what is more than likely to become a huge country on its border run by a bunch of fundamentalist Islamic lunatics hell-bent on killing everyone who isn't just like them. Why would they sit idly and allow all this military hardware to fall into the hands of such people?
to some extent i agree, take out the chance of them coming after you later (also get some additional land for the Israeli settlers)
BUT why stop there?
why not just kill every male child before they grow up and become a terrorist?

what/who gives anyone the right to preemptive strikes against another country?
Well, the long accepted right to self defence for a start.

Israel knows their reputation has been damaged by recent military actions, so this latest decision to open another theatre of operations doesn't come without risks. However, Israel makes such decisions based on careful strategic analysis, not global public opinion.

They had a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity to degrade Syria's capacity to wage war thus preventing a potential future conflict. The so called land grab is tiny - have you seen the size of Syria?

The long oppressed people of Syria - who are now free of the 50+ years of tyranny by the Assad family - have two people who they ought to thank for gifting the rebels a golden opportunity to oust that bunch of thugs out of Damascas: (1) Netanyahu for destroying Hezboallah's capacity to assist the Assad regime and humbling Iran by destroying their air defences and other military installations, (thus making them extremely vulnerable to future attacks), and (2) Vladimir Putin who over extended Russia's military in Ukraine and could not offer any support to Syria, even at the cost of losing Russia's important strategic interests in that country*

Without those three forces, Assad's regime was hopelessly exposed and lasted less than a week. Netanyahu and Putin deserve the Nobel Peace Prize for what they did for the Syrian people! (yes, I am joking here).

*To understand just how weakened Russia has become, they evacuated their naval port and air base in Tartus and fled several days before Assad fell, they knew the outcome was a foregone conclusion. This is a disaster for Russia. They have no access to the Mediterranean as the route to/from Sevastopol via the Bosphorus in Turkey is closed to them (because of their actions in Ukraine) and their ships will have to slink back to Russia via the Atlantic. I hope they have enough fuel.

Another vulnerable regime is Iran's Mullahs in Tehran who will be nervously looking over their shoulders at their own IRGC (Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps) who will be furious at Iran's loss of military prestige and power and their impotence to prevent the loss of their prized vassal state and the loss of Hezbollah as an effective fighting force. They too might decide it's time for a change of management. Syria might not be the last shoe to drop.

That fateful decision by Iran to embolden Hamas' to launch its October 7th assault on Israel has completely upended the status quo in the region. So three cheers for the Mullahs and Putin!
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