This is in today's ultra-dhimmitude Guardian:

It is also apparent from sermons and handbooks that circulate in Isis-inspired networks that Europe is seen as the soft underbelly of western power – the place where the tinder of tension in segregated communities is driest, and where, it is imagined, apocalyptic conflagration may finally catch. Manchester and London were attacked as part of a continuous cultural space that encompasses Paris, Nice, Berlin, Brussels and other cities that have been targeted.

Different European countries have their own domestic policies on integration, on state-mandated secularism, on incarcerating terrorist suspects, and policing the ambiguous boundary between radical religious doctrines and ideological incitements to murder. But those national distinctions are immaterial to the terrorists. Wherever there is a pool of young Muslim men nurturing a furious sense of grievance, incubated by some combination of social and economic marginalisation, there are recruits.

But the fact are at variance with this simplistic drivel. Many of the attacks in Europe (and in the USA) have been carried out by well-educated Muslims with
no material grievances at all.

peppermintpaddy wrote: ↑Wed Jun 07, 2017 5:27 am

Jamie_Lambo wrote: ↑Wed Jun 07, 2017 4:54 am

peppermintpaddy wrote: ↑Wed Jun 07, 2017 3:22 am

StroppyChops wrote: ↑Wed Jun 07, 2017 2:18 am

peppermintpaddy wrote: ↑Wed Jun 07, 2017 1:39 am
Fundamentalists of "any faith" dont want to murder you.......Fundamentalist hindus want to ban the killing of cattle,fundamentalist catholics want to ban condoms....fundamentalist Jains are the most peaceful people on earth,they wear face masks in case they accidentaly swallow a bug,thereby killing it,its only fundmentalist muslims who want to "kill the unbeliever wherever you may find them".......
It's a well worn cliche,"all fundamentalists are the same" -nonsense.......theyre patently not.

Yes - and all Muslims are patently not fundamentalists.

Nobody has said all muslims are fundamentalists,tho' a significant percentage of muslims are.....apparently over 100.000 UK muslims sympathize with suicide bombers and other terrorist acts......heres some research you might be interested inhttps://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/7861/british-muslims-survey

a significant percent? 100,000 out of 2,786,635, its a small percentage... 3.5%

and you wonder why I called you a an apologist.......

what? im not an apologist im just going off things you keep stating...
4.4% of the UK population is Muslim, and only 3.5% of them are fundamentalists, very significant figures...

boozyoldman wrote: ↑Wed Jun 07, 2017 9:52 am Jihadists know what they are willing to die to destroy and a significant percentage of the Jihadists
engaged in murderous attacks in the West have received a secular Western education
without it having made any real impression on them. Like soft summer rain on a granite boulder.

http://www.vdare.com/posts/retired-cia- ... t-the-west

We were forewarned of this!

The Prophet Muhammad (عليه السلام) furiously and painfully described these evildoers, and admonished Muslims to beware of their evil and fight it. “Whoever fights them is better to Allah than them,” he proclaimed.

From Huffington post, a couple of years ago:

A study of the traditions of the Prophet Muhammad also demonstrates that he warned us of the rise of religious extremism in this age in astonishing detail.

1,400 years ago, he prophesized that a time would come when nothing would remain of Islam but its name, nothing of the Quran but its word, and that many “Mosques would be splendidly furnished but destitute of guidance” (Mishkatul Masabih). In these latter days, the true spiritual essence of Islam would be lost, and religion, for the most part, would be reduced to a ritualistic compulsion. He foretold that the clergy would be corrupt and be a source of strife during these times............



.........He also went on to describe terrorist groups such as ISIS that would try to hijack the Islamic faith. At this time of dissension, he said there would appear “a group of young people who would be immature in thought and foolish.” They would speak beautiful words but commit the most heinous of deeds. They would engage in so much prayer and fasting that the worship of the Muslims would appear insignificant in comparison. They would call people to the Quran but would have nothing to do with it in reality. The Quran would not go beyond their throats, meaning they wouldn’t understand its essence at all, merely regurgitating it selectively. The Prophet then went on to describe these people as “the worst of the creation.”

....... in the book Kitaab Al Fitan reported by Caliph Ali, the fourth successor to Prophet Muhammad, describes these people as having long hair and bearing black flags. Their “hearts will be hard as iron,” and they would be the companions of a State (Ashab ul Dawla). Interestingly, ISIS refers to itself as the Islamic State or Dawla. The tradition further mentions that they will break their covenants, not speak the truth and have names that mention their cities. The ISIS caliph, Abu Bakr al Baghdadi, comes to mind.

Prophet Muhammad furiously and painfully described these evildoers, and admonished Muslims to beware of their evil and fight it. “Whoever fights them is better to Allah than them,” he proclaimed.http://www.huffingtonpost.com/kashif-n- ... 02064.html

Jamie_Lambo wrote: ↑Wed Jun 07, 2017 12:29 pm

peppermintpaddy wrote: ↑Wed Jun 07, 2017 5:27 am

Jamie_Lambo wrote: ↑Wed Jun 07, 2017 4:54 am

peppermintpaddy wrote: ↑Wed Jun 07, 2017 3:22 am

StroppyChops wrote: ↑Wed Jun 07, 2017 2:18 am
Yes - and all Muslims are patently not fundamentalists.

Nobody has said all muslims are fundamentalists,tho' a significant percentage of muslims are.....apparently over 100.000 UK muslims sympathize with suicide bombers and other terrorist acts......heres some research you might be interested inhttps://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/7861/british-muslims-survey

a significant percent? 100,000 out of 2,786,635, its a small percentage... 3.5%

and you wonder why I called you a an apologist.......

what? im not an apologist im just going off things you keep stating...
4.4% of the UK population is Muslim, and only 3.5% of them are fundamentalists, very significant figures...

if you don't think 100,000 people supporting terrorism in the uk is insignificant,then youre deluded.......

This is probably islamaphobic

People in the middle east have a depressing obsession with the end of times, so they trot out apocryphal visions all the time. Mo is the least plausible of the "prophets" as all the documents from his time were deliberately destroyed. As if he was a later construct and ret-conned back into the picture. Took a while for him to pop up on coins, too. The Koran is a much later collection of writing than anything a supposed Mo said or did, same as the New Testament, only we at least have Josephus and other historical commentators to reference activities in Judea, even Pilot kept notes. Need a bit of legitimacy for your invasion of the Arabian peninsular? God said you should do it, through Mo, who is unfortunately not available at the moment. However, here's some notes the illiterate man wrote, saying it's cool. Plus, you should chop the end of your cock off.

StroppyChops wrote: ↑Tue Jun 06, 2017 5:05 pm

Jamie_Lambo wrote: ↑Tue Jun 06, 2017 5:22 amthen you called me a muslim sympathizer

I never understood how being a Muslim sympathizer is automatically supposed to be a bad thing. I sympathize with every Muslim that's caught in an oppressive regime, being born into and indoctrinated with a hateful ideology, and collectively labeled along with the terrorist scum that use their particular faith to perpetrate acts of hatred. Would I shoot an Islamic fundamentalist about to unleash death and destruction? In a heart beat - as I would with fundamentalists of any faith, including Christianity. Can I sympathize with Muslims, Muslim mums and dads and families? Sure - can't you?

This karma lark has become more of a joke. I got negative karma on this post from a "member" who has never contributed a single post since 2014. Mods, Was ist diese Scheiße ?

As I'm typing this, the same member 'colonistin' is working through my posts and negatively rating them...

StroppyChops wrote: ↑Thu Jun 08, 2017 11:52 pm

StroppyChops wrote: ↑Tue Jun 06, 2017 5:05 pm

Jamie_Lambo wrote: ↑Tue Jun 06, 2017 5:22 amthen you called me a muslim sympathizer

I never understood how being a Muslim sympathizer is automatically supposed to be a bad thing. I sympathize with every Muslim that's caught in an oppressive regime, being born into and indoctrinated with a hateful ideology, and collectively labeled along with the terrorist scum that use their particular faith to perpetrate acts of hatred. Would I shoot an Islamic fundamentalist about to unleash death and destruction? In a heart beat - as I would with fundamentalists of any faith, including Christianity. Can I sympathize with Muslims, Muslim mums and dads and families? Sure - can't you?

This karma lark has become more of a joke. I got negative karma on this post from a "member" who has never contributed a single post since 2014. Mods, Was ist diese Scheiße ?

As I'm typing this, the same member 'colonistin' is working through my posts and negatively rating them...

I am reading through this thread and liking the ones I agree with and disliking the ones I don't. Sorry, nothing to do with you, just your posts. I don't even know you from Adam. If you're so upset, I'll take them out.

colonistin wrote: ↑Thu Jun 08, 2017 11:59 pm

StroppyChops wrote: ↑Thu Jun 08, 2017 11:52 pm

StroppyChops wrote: ↑Tue Jun 06, 2017 5:05 pm

Jamie_Lambo wrote: ↑Tue Jun 06, 2017 5:22 amthen you called me a muslim sympathizer

I never understood how being a Muslim sympathizer is automatically supposed to be a bad thing. I sympathize with every Muslim that's caught in an oppressive regime, being born into and indoctrinated with a hateful ideology, and collectively labeled along with the terrorist scum that use their particular faith to perpetrate acts of hatred. Would I shoot an Islamic fundamentalist about to unleash death and destruction? In a heart beat - as I would with fundamentalists of any faith, including Christianity. Can I sympathize with Muslims, Muslim mums and dads and families? Sure - can't you?

This karma lark has become more of a joke. I got negative karma on this post from a "member" who has never contributed a single post since 2014. Mods, Was ist diese Scheiße ?

As I'm typing this, the same member 'colonistin' is working through my posts and negatively rating them...

I am reading through this thread and liking the ones I agree with and disliking the ones I don't. Sorry, nothing to do with you, just your posts. I don't even know you from Adam. If you're so upset, I'll take them out.

I could care less about your comments or your negative ratings - it's the fact that you've been registered here since 2014 and NEVER contributed, yet you suddenly start giving me negative ratings because I refuse to talk smack about Muslims.

I'm fairly confident the admins will see that as anti-social too, and ban your ass.

colonistin wrote: ↑Thu Jun 08, 2017 11:59 pm

StroppyChops wrote: ↑Thu Jun 08, 2017 11:52 pm

StroppyChops wrote: ↑Tue Jun 06, 2017 5:05 pm

Jamie_Lambo wrote: ↑Tue Jun 06, 2017 5:22 amthen you called me a muslim sympathizer

I never understood how being a Muslim sympathizer is automatically supposed to be a bad thing. I sympathize with every Muslim that's caught in an oppressive regime, being born into and indoctrinated with a hateful ideology, and collectively labeled along with the terrorist scum that use their particular faith to perpetrate acts of hatred. Would I shoot an Islamic fundamentalist about to unleash death and destruction? In a heart beat - as I would with fundamentalists of any faith, including Christianity. Can I sympathize with Muslims, Muslim mums and dads and families? Sure - can't you?

This karma lark has become more of a joke. I got negative karma on this post from a "member" who has never contributed a single post since 2014. Mods, Was ist diese Scheiße ?

As I'm typing this, the same member 'colonistin' is working through my posts and negatively rating them...

I am reading through this thread and liking the ones I agree with and disliking the ones I don't. Sorry, nothing to do with you, just your posts. I don't even know you from Adam. If you're so upset, I'll take them out.

as GM said, i wouldnt worry about it, no one gets a gold star for having the most Karma, just ignore it if it bothers ya mate