america's involvement in Afghanistan closes

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Focus! boys and girls.

If you are going to shoot an issue in Afghanistan don't aim at the health care system in the USA.
It's a quagmire.
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BillDoe wrote: Thu Jul 08, 2021 2:20 pm Only 2.26 trillion? Over 20 years? Thats cheap af god damn

It would probably be even cheaper if we took a vacation down South, I heard Venezuela isn't looking so hot right now
Should have used that money to build airports,road,casinos, luxury apartments like the Chinese do. :stir:
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Do i have to start another thread "Australia's involv... closes too" ?
I wish America would not so easily forget their "coallition of the willing"' "partners" immediately after the recruitment is a done deal.

May i ask a question -
Are most of our American readers aware that Australia withdrew it's forces in tandem with the americans this week?
-after sticking thru everything.
Right out there in the badlands with the flies and the sun and that immediate pungent smell when warm blood thickens on hot ground. for near 20 years

Not sure anyone else did that to the degree Australia did.
Does it register ?- except for a few homilies muttered out of obligation when reminded.

(NZ left just a few months ago. NATO was there too - but Australia's engagement alongside the Yanks is always at another level. Every time)

nb, i am not an aussie
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SternAAlbifrons wrote: Mon Jul 12, 2021 4:20 am Do i have to start another thread "Australia's involv... closes too" ?
I wish America would not so easily forget their "coallition of the willing"' "partners" immediately after the recruitment is a done deal.

May i ask a question -
Are most of our American readers aware that Australia withdrew it's forces in tandem with the americans this week?
-after sticking thru everything.
Right out there in the badlands with the flies and the sun and that immediate pungent smell when warm blood thickens on hot ground. for near 20 years

Not sure anyone else did that to the degree Australia did.
Does it register ?- except for a few homilies muttered out of obligation when reminded.

(NZ left just a few months ago. NATO was there too - but Australia's engagement alongside the Yanks is always at another level. Every time)

nb, i am not an aussie
No, the average American has no clue the Aussies were there … many probably didn’t know we were either … or where Afghanistan even is. I’m sure they have an opinion about it though.
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Kahuna wrote: Thu Jul 08, 2021 1:30 pm @John Bingham you got that right. Kandahar airfield which would have been the second largest air base in country after Bagram AFB was home to a wide variety of fixed and rotary wing aircraft and also to the drones like the USAF's Reaper and Predator but it was also surrounded by mountains from which the Taliban would every few days send a salvo of rockets from to keep the camp on it's toes. So your question on how to defend anything in that terrain is well founded. The British found that out during the first series of Afghan wars as did the Russians during their involvement.
Were you at KAF? I went there a few times but I never saw anyone "on their toes". It was gigantic enough that mortars didn't matter unless you were really unlucky. Plus they had warning systems. I mean sure, they got a few rockets here and there but generally it was one of the safest places in Afghanistan. They had a Burger King after all...
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Bitte_Kein_Lexus wrote: Mon Jul 12, 2021 12:32 pm Were you at KAF? I went there a few times but I never saw anyone "on their toes". It was gigantic enough that mortars didn't matter unless you were really unlucky. Plus they had warning systems. I mean sure, they got a few rockets here and there but generally it was one of the safest places in Afghanistan. They had a Burger King after all...
I spent alot of time at one of our clients fuel distribution centres 7km's from KAF, used to provide security for fuel convoys from Spin Boldak to KAF and from KAF to Camp Bastion in Lashkargah, Herat. KAF was unreal, used to go up there often for a feed and shopping...massive PX, Local market, Burger King, KFC, TGIF's, Pizza Hut, Green beans, Tim Horton's, golf driving green, cinemas, etc., most of the military based there had never even left the perimeter, they lived in a bubble, blind to what was happening outside. KAF did get rocketed and mortared on a near daily/nightly basis, but as the camp was so bloody big, casualties were very rare. One of our clients who was based at the vehicle refuelling point in KAF was unlucky enough to be sitting in his office when a rocket pierced the roof of his Conex and exploded, the only body part that was found was one of his feet, still in it's boot, several hundred metres away, RIP. Was waiting at an entry checkpoint into KAF one day when a fuel tanker VBIED exploded about 300m behind us, talk about a headache.

I notice alot of talk about the monetary costs of the war in Afghanistan, who really gives a flying f**k, it's over now. We should remember the human cost of the war, those who were killed, seriously injured and/or are suffering from severe PTSD, and still dying...not only soldiers, but contractors, and most of all the locals who have been the biggest victims, they haven't known peace ever since the Russian invasion.
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PSD-Kiwi wrote: Mon Jul 12, 2021 1:05 pm used to go up there often for a feed, Burger King, KFC, TGIF's, Pizza Hut, Green beans, Tim Horton's,
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PSD-Kiwi wrote: Mon Jul 12, 2021 1:05 pm I notice alot of talk about the monetary costs of the war in Afghanistan, who really gives a flying f**k, it's over now. We should remember the human cost of the war, those who were killed, seriously injured and/or are suffering from severe PTSD, and still dying...not only soldiers, but contractors, and most of all the locals who have been the biggest victims, they haven't known peace ever since the Russian invasion.

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Amen to that brother. :thumb:
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:ROFL: @Brody, sadly, that is an accurate portrayal of many of the people who were based in the large Camps like KAF.
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The Chief Medical Officer has deemed it unsafe to get shot at no more wars are aloud in the interest of public safety.
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PSD-Kiwi wrote: Mon Jul 12, 2021 1:05 pm
Bitte_Kein_Lexus wrote: Mon Jul 12, 2021 12:32 pm Were you at KAF? I went there a few times but I never saw anyone "on their toes". It was gigantic enough that mortars didn't matter unless you were really unlucky. Plus they had warning systems. I mean sure, they got a few rockets here and there but generally it was one of the safest places in Afghanistan. They had a Burger King after all...
I spent alot of time at one of our clients fuel distribution centres 7km's from KAF, used to provide security for fuel convoys from Spin Boldak to KAF and from KAF to Camp Bastion in Lashkargah, Herat. KAF was unreal, used to go up there often for a feed and shopping...massive PX, Local market, Burger King, KFC, TGIF's, Pizza Hut, Green beans, Tim Horton's, golf driving green, cinemas, etc., most of the military based there had never even left the perimeter, they lived in a bubble, blind to what was happening outside. KAF did get rocketed and mortared on a near daily/nightly basis, but as the camp was so bloody big, casualties were very rare. One of our clients who was based at the vehicle refuelling point in KAF was unlucky enough to be sitting in his office when a rocket pierced the roof of his Conex and exploded, the only body part that was found was one of his feet, still in it's boot, several hundred metres away, RIP. Was waiting at an entry checkpoint into KAF one day when a fuel tanker VBIED exploded about 300m behind us, talk about a headache.

I notice alot of talk about the monetary costs of the war in Afghanistan, who really gives a flying f**k, it's over now. We should remember the human cost of the war, those who were killed, seriously injured and/or are suffering from severe PTSD, and still dying...not only soldiers, but contractors, and most of all the locals who have been the biggest victims, they haven't known peace ever since the Russian invasion.
Ah yes, Spin Ballsack as we called it. Been there. I didn't want to appear rude but yeah, KAF was basically a cushy spot where you could lead as normal a life as you can have while on mission. I was always amazed at the city-like atmosphere of the place (minus poop lake). It was cool to see the multinational elements, but I also remember it being way more "RSM strict", and obviously it had less of a sense of community than where we were. Plus, different SOPs (I remember some marine being all worried because my weapon wasn't on safe). At first it was cool to get the rare opportunity to shop or something, but that quickly faded as they didn't have much of interest anyways (what am I going to buy, Copenhagen dip and energy drinks that we already got for free?). The food there was also absolutely horrible. I couldn't wait to leave whenever I went.

Later on, I learned that a lot of the people working at PXs and the restaurants have numerous tours. Whole other world. Mind blown...
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