S.Africa to be the next Zimbabwe
Re: S.Africa to be the next Zimbabwe
The natives in both USA and SA were killing each other as they fought over land long before the colonists arrived. At what time in history do we go back to where we can say this land belonged to this group?
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Re: S.Africa to be the next Zimbabwe
When they got rid of the white business man their wages finally increased...
but not as fast as the prices LOL.
but not as fast as the prices LOL.
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Re: S.Africa to be the next Zimbabwe
The testse-fly belt is an impassable obstacle that exists across the centre of Africa:
Unless you have tsetse-resistant cattle you are not going to be able to migrate from West Africa to Southern Africa. The Bantu come from West Africa, they colonised all the countries from the equator down as soon as their main food and wealth source was able to graze through the big green line in the middle. {EDIT} Butchering the pygmies along the way, driving them into the forest. That is why there are pygmies in the jungle and nowhere else{/EDIT} Them moving south hit the white people, the Boers, moving north (The Great Trek). They had a few fights and the Boers won but the land was mostly empty. See next sentence. The reason there are Zulus, and only Zulus, in Kwa-Zulu Natal is because Shaka decided that the assegai was not just for waving about and he then butchered every other tribe, driving the Matabeles into what is now South Western Zimbabwe and emptying the whole of Transvaal/Gauteng. This happened in the 19th C, Dingashwayo, Shaka's son, was the one who fought the British at Rourke's Drift. The Xhosas, moving south away from the Zulus, hit the Fish River in Eastern Cape roughly the same time as the British moving east (Boers all having fucked off by now) so the entire west bank was filled up with British settlers, the 1820 Settlers, to stop them moving further west. Which is why you have cities called East London.
Unfortunately after the war there was a massive population boom in Africa of black africans so the original homelands, modelled on the US system of Indian Reserves, where black people of various tribes could run their own countries, became massively over populated. The same thing happened in Kenya - when the British arrived they chose to build estates in the cool highlands, where nobody lived. At that time Kenya's population was about a mil or so. All of a sudden there's 20 million Mau Maus and parents can no longer give their children land. South Africa's population did the same post war.
To compare it to the US, remember that 90% of the Indians were dead of pox. When the Pilgrims turned up near to Plymouth Rock there were fields and orchards, all ready for harvest but only one dude alive, who fortunately spoke English and was keen to make new friends after a depressing few years. Sagas of Erik the Red, the viking who turned up to the US first, say that the smoke from the Indians' fires blackened the sky for as far as they could see. They chased off the vikings pretty sharpish and would have done the same to the White Man.
It's been a week and I still have jet lag so I have plenty of spare time, that's why this is long.
Unless you have tsetse-resistant cattle you are not going to be able to migrate from West Africa to Southern Africa. The Bantu come from West Africa, they colonised all the countries from the equator down as soon as their main food and wealth source was able to graze through the big green line in the middle. {EDIT} Butchering the pygmies along the way, driving them into the forest. That is why there are pygmies in the jungle and nowhere else{/EDIT} Them moving south hit the white people, the Boers, moving north (The Great Trek). They had a few fights and the Boers won but the land was mostly empty. See next sentence. The reason there are Zulus, and only Zulus, in Kwa-Zulu Natal is because Shaka decided that the assegai was not just for waving about and he then butchered every other tribe, driving the Matabeles into what is now South Western Zimbabwe and emptying the whole of Transvaal/Gauteng. This happened in the 19th C, Dingashwayo, Shaka's son, was the one who fought the British at Rourke's Drift. The Xhosas, moving south away from the Zulus, hit the Fish River in Eastern Cape roughly the same time as the British moving east (Boers all having fucked off by now) so the entire west bank was filled up with British settlers, the 1820 Settlers, to stop them moving further west. Which is why you have cities called East London.
Unfortunately after the war there was a massive population boom in Africa of black africans so the original homelands, modelled on the US system of Indian Reserves, where black people of various tribes could run their own countries, became massively over populated. The same thing happened in Kenya - when the British arrived they chose to build estates in the cool highlands, where nobody lived. At that time Kenya's population was about a mil or so. All of a sudden there's 20 million Mau Maus and parents can no longer give their children land. South Africa's population did the same post war.
To compare it to the US, remember that 90% of the Indians were dead of pox. When the Pilgrims turned up near to Plymouth Rock there were fields and orchards, all ready for harvest but only one dude alive, who fortunately spoke English and was keen to make new friends after a depressing few years. Sagas of Erik the Red, the viking who turned up to the US first, say that the smoke from the Indians' fires blackened the sky for as far as they could see. They chased off the vikings pretty sharpish and would have done the same to the White Man.
It's been a week and I still have jet lag so I have plenty of spare time, that's why this is long.
Re: S.Africa to be the next Zimbabwe
The decline in farm productivity has already begun. The article, which i will dig out later, attributed the drop to the farmers not wanting to expose themselves to undue risk. Why borrow money to plant crops that may fail due to prolonged droughts. And then lose it all but keep the debt.
Instability and fear will spread to other sectors and they may end up seizing more than just farms.
Instability and fear will spread to other sectors and they may end up seizing more than just farms.
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Re: S.Africa to be the next Zimbabwe
The land seizures which may or may not happen will not be the only problem.
Sons and daughters of farmers are leaving, and there is not a body of qualified people to take over. Blacks and coloured have been excluded from agricultural colleges either deliberately or because of lack of financial resources/government initiatives.
In addition, most provinces, especially the Northern Province, Western and Northern Cape will probably cease to have reliable rain or have much-reduced within 5 years.
Bad times ahead.
Sons and daughters of farmers are leaving, and there is not a body of qualified people to take over. Blacks and coloured have been excluded from agricultural colleges either deliberately or because of lack of financial resources/government initiatives.
In addition, most provinces, especially the Northern Province, Western and Northern Cape will probably cease to have reliable rain or have much-reduced within 5 years.
Bad times ahead.
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