I have blocked him, he was getting on my nerves anyway.

charlie

I guess anybody who points out the hypocrisy of western nations pillaging African ones and then calling them corrupt must be on something.

that genius wrote:I guess anybody who points out the hypocrisy of western nations pillaging African ones and then calling them corrupt must be on something.

Like I say to my kids, it’s not what you say it’s how you say it.

You sometimes have some good points but the way you post it puts anyone off responding to you because it always turns into a shitfight.

Arget wrote: ↑Sun Aug 05, 2018 11:11 am
And what abuse by Aussie guards are you rambling on about?

Have you been there on Nauru to see these appalling camps?

My apologies. It must all be #fakenews just because you find it uncomfortable to acknowledge, Mr. Trump.

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-n ... -detention



https://www.hrw.org/news/2016/08/02/aus ... gees-nauru

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-08-10/n ... se/7712890

https://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/featu ... 38347.html

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-australia-36972450

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/worl ... 82441.html

https://www.cnn.com/2016/08/10/asia/aus ... index.html

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/worl ... 33733.html

https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal ... 0nlun.html

http://www.thejournal.ie/leaked-reports ... 4-Aug2016/


I haven't been to Syria to see the reported appalling conditions there either so by your logic it must not exist.

No shitfight here, not interested in arguing with people who think pointing out hypocrisy is somehow irrelevant. Life is too short. Carry on, you have made up your mind to see your point of view, it is what it is. Nice day.

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what has any of this to do with saffer farmers having their land expropriated due to being white?
that was the subject here, right?

The land is not being expropriated because they are white. It is being expropriated because people claim that they stole it from the original owners. Whether you believe that or not has become irrelevant, it seems. I know that it isvtrue in some cases and untrue in others. But IF it were generally true, then the current complainants would be on shaky ground given the history of apartheid. No pun intended, but it's not all black and white, bad treatment by both sides. Complex issue.

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that genius wrote: ↑Mon Aug 06, 2018 2:19 pm The land is not being expropriated because they are white. It is being expropriated because people claim that they stole it from the original owners. Whether you believe that or not has become irrelevant, it seems. I know that it isvtrue in some cases and untrue in others. But IF it were generally true, then the current complainants would be on shaky ground given the history of apartheid. No pun intended, but it's not all black and white, bad treatment by both sides. Complex issue.

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The Bantu tribes certainly aren't the original owners, so that eliminates the Sothos of the ANC and the Zulus. The Cape Coloureds are the only descendants left of the Hottentots and you'll have to round up some Khoi from the Kalahari for the rest. Bantu people didn't get tsetse-fly resistant cattle until the 17th C, they're originally from around Nigeria. But surely you should know this already.

that was certainly my understanding though i am no African history scholar

Yes, the Bantu don't have as good a claim as others...but they certainly have a better claim than anybody who profited off the apartheid govt's policies...which only really got into full swing in 1948, a great year for apartheid-style governments. It's interesting that the people who invoke the whovwasbhere first logic think that the native American Indians shouldn't have land restored, but are quite happy to apply the same logic to a situation that doesn't affect them. Likewise, they see little or nothing wrong with the colonial powers pillaging Africa, when very clearly they arrived years after the locals in almost every single location.. South Africa is a big country and you may be right about the western and northern Cape but in several other provinces there has been a constant change, with honkies only arriving much later. The who was here argument is meaningless today, whether you think it's valid or not.
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