Dispute Over Ban on Goat Killing ?

IraHayes · Post by **IraHayes** » Tue Sep 21, 2021 2:16 pm

Kammekor wrote: ↑Tue Sep 21, 2021 2:10 pm
mannanman wrote: ↑Tue Sep 21, 2021 12:39 pm
Kammekor wrote: ↑Tue Sep 21, 2021 12:07 pm
mannanman wrote: ↑Tue Sep 21, 2021 11:11 am It’s been that way for a long time.
Even getting a “low end” job (bank teller) requires a donation to someone. Doesn’t matter if you’ve passed your uni course just that you went.
From my personal experience I can tell you with Hatta Kaksekor and Prasac that's an urban myth.
Personal experience. Maybe not now but 2016 yes - if you went to a uni you could pay some cash and get a job. Obviously if you did ok you’d still get that job but don’t expect to be a manager unless you pay.
Thanks hat goes for any government job too - stupid fuck? No problem, your dad/aunt/cousin has said you’re a worthy individual. Welcome.

That’s $10k please. WELCOME!
For the government jobs, confirmed.

For the private sector I can't confirm it but I have examples from loads of cases where people were employed without money asked.

So the picture of the Cambodian private sector commonly asking for money to be employed is not correct IMHO.

The reason people "buy" a job is simply because the job will enable them to make extra money from the position.

Post by **Freightdog** » Tue Sep 21, 2021 3:09 pm

Debates on nepotism and bribes for jobs aside, is this a protest about a ban on killing goats, or a protest about having rules and procedures imposed, or maybe existing ones enforced?

Wholesale slaughter, commercially for food is a fact of life in most nations that eat meat. If in Cambodia it’s ok to slaughter cattle, pigs and chickens, why would it be forbidden for goats?
Or has a single community (or political agenda) that wants to operate contrary to everything else, twisted the facts into a headline that somehow demonstrates bias and prejudice? ie. they don’t like being told what to do after a long time of getting away with not following the rules.

Kohker · Post by **Kohker** » Tue Sep 21, 2021 3:28 pm

mannanman wrote: ↑Tue Sep 21, 2021 11:11 am
Yobbo wrote: ↑Tue Sep 21, 2021 11:01 am It's a special kind of stupidity that prevails when officials are elevated to their position through connections rather than ability!
It’s been that way for a long time.
Even getting a “low end” job (bank teller) requires a donation to someone. Doesn’t matter if you’ve passed your uni course just that you went.

Absolute garbage not in the private sector.

mannanman · Post by **mannanman** » Tue Sep 21, 2021 3:32 pm

Can’t comment on private sector but I’d imagine it happens but more through nepotism. Nothing wrong with thats

Kammekor · Post by **Kammekor** » Tue Sep 21, 2021 3:47 pm

mannanman wrote: ↑Tue Sep 21, 2021 3:32 pm Can’t comment on private sector but I’d imagine it happens but more through nepotism. Nothing wrong with thats

mannanman wrote: ↑Tue Sep 21, 2021 11:11 am Even getting a “low end” job (bank teller) requires a donation to someone. Doesn’t matter if you’ve passed your uni course just that you went.

If banks aren't private sector I'm lost.

Chad Sexington · Post by **Chad Sexington** » Tue Sep 21, 2021 4:01 pm

3 or 4 years back, local officials and police called in on the villagers here who were involved in the unregulated raising of pigs in their backyards, telling them that the practice would have to be stopped (the pigs were slaughtered, butchered and sold on site)
Nothing ever came of it, I suspect the same may be the case with this goat issue.

Kuroneko · Post by **Kuroneko** » Tue Sep 21, 2021 4:23 pm

As JB rightly points out the dispute is not about slaughtering goats per se, it is about slaughtering goats for commercial sale:

John Bingham wrote: ↑Tue Sep 21, 2021 11:51 am There's a dispute because some people have been slaughtering goats for commercial sale without observing the hygiene laws.

Kandal provincial authorities yesterday clarified that the seizure of goat meat from families was because they had slaughtered the animals at home for sale instead of at abattoirs as required by the law. Kandal Provincial Governor Kong Sophorn said the requirement to use abattoirs was to protect the health of consumers.

In response, Minister of Agriculture Veng Sakhon wrote a comment on Mr HE’s Facebook page stating that raising and killing animals for the needs of a family is not illegal. And no law forbids them from doing so, except in the case of slaughtering animals for business.
https://www.khmertimeskh.com/50937978/g ... e-irks-pm/

mannanman · Post by **mannanman** » Tue Sep 21, 2021 5:36 pm

Kammekor wrote: ↑Tue Sep 21, 2021 3:47 pm
mannanman wrote: ↑Tue Sep 21, 2021 3:32 pm Can’t comment on private sector but I’d imagine it happens but more through nepotism. Nothing wrong with thats

mannanman wrote: ↑Tue Sep 21, 2021 11:11 am Even getting a “low end” job (bank teller) requires a donation to someone. Doesn’t matter if you’ve passed your uni course just that you went.
If banks aren't private sector I'm lost.

Fair point.
As I said personal experience and it was in 2016.

Grand Barong · Post by **Grand Barong** » Tue Sep 21, 2021 9:03 pm

mannanman wrote: ↑Tue Sep 21, 2021 11:11 am
Yobbo wrote: ↑Tue Sep 21, 2021 11:01 am It's a special kind of stupidity that prevails when officials are elevated to their position through connections rather than ability!
It’s been that way for a long time.
Even getting a “low end” job (bank teller) requires a donation to someone. Doesn’t matter if you’ve passed your uni course just that you went.

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