Unrest in the Thai South hits Songkhla, again

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every 50 years or so the world needs a world war to get it out of the system and also to remind forgetful humans that war is not good.
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vladimir wrote:
ot mien kampf wrote:Islam is a religion that very quickly resorts to violence and intimidation. I would not be surprised if you went through every single one of these separatist movements, tallied up the casualties and the number caused by ALL other non-Islamic causes was far lower than Islamic ones.
1. Explain to me about Israel and how peaceful Judaism is.

2. The west, especially America, likes to portray themselves as Christian countries (dog bless Murrika). Which country has started more wars than any other in history?

An Islamic country? No. A Jewish country? Strictly speaking, NO. A Christian country? Helloooo...
Fucking lol. This is like first semester of university: the post.

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Muslims are great because some other countries are bad. Also a country built on secularism is now Christian because I say so, the 1st amendment don't real. Also ignore my bizarre hate for the only Jewish country on earth and love for Muslims, they aren't linked I swear!

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1. Go read a decent, academic history of America and the constitution rather than a pamphlet from your local socialist alternative student club like it seems you have.

2. Arab armies invaded Israel first in 1948 and 1973, this is undeniable fact, and the Israelis responded to Arab build up in 1967. It's not the Jews fault they struck back 3 waves of Muslim aggression.

3. Jews predate Muslims by several thousand years in the Israeli area, so if you're going to spin the foundation of Israel as an act of aggression, then the foundation of ANY Muslim state there must have been one, too. If you want to follow history exactly, the Muslims there expelled the Christian Byzantines during one of their many brutal conquests. Of the three groups, Muslims are undeniably the most recent on that land.

4. Thanks for proving my point. Some leftist prick from the West always finds a way to absolve Muslims of any blame no matter what they do. You illustrated my point perfectly.
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suggest you all read, "A kingdom in crisis" by Andrew MacGregor Marshal

BUT DONT bring the book to Thailand
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phuketrichard wrote:suggest you all read, "A kingdom in crisis" by Andrew MacGregor Marshal

BUT DONT bring the book to Thailand
If you want a classical precedent to the issues plaguing Thailand, read up about Tiberius Gracchus. Witnessed the split between the wealthy patricians and the plebs, particularly the issue with everyday Roman farmers being forced off their lands for the interests of the wealthy. Soldiers in Rome needed to own land; no land meant no military and no defense at the periphery of the empire. Disenfranchised masses butting heads with the kleptocratic elite and the empire suffering. Doesn't take a genius to see the parallels with this situation and the red/yellow shirt issue + the problems in the South.

The militants basically run wild and have no desire for a political solution because the attention of the state is focused elsewhere
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ot mien kampf wrote:Yeah, tell me about all the Jewish and Christian terror attacks in the last decade. Oh wait, it's always Islam.
And why the last decade? But as a matter of fact, Christians continue killing in the name of faith in places like CAR with thousands killed in 2014, atrocities by the NLFT in India, the Lords Resistance Army in Uganda recruiting child soldiers and committing murder, and fundamental Christinas in the US killing employees at abortion clinics.

As for Jews: ever hear of Gaza?

I do not defend Islamic terrorist attacks but it is a little too easy to blame all on mUslims.
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hanno wrote:
ot mien kampf wrote:Yeah, tell me about all the Jewish and Christian terror attacks in the last decade. Oh wait, it's always Islam.
And why the last decade? But as a matter of fact, Christians continue killing in the name of faith in places like CAR with thousands killed in 2014, atrocities by the NLFT in India, the Lords Resistance Army in Uganda recruiting child soldiers and committing murder, and fundamental Christinas in the US killing employees at abortion clinics.

As for Jews: ever hear of Gaza?

I do not defend Islamic terrorist attacks but it is a little too easy to blame all on mUslims.
CAR has seen equal atrocities from both sides. Saudi Arabia has killed far more people in its illegal occupation of Yemen than Israel has in its whole existence.

It's a matter of scale. Do all religions commit crimes? Yes. Do Muslims do it at a much higher rate than any other religion. YES.

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Sunni Muslim terrorists committed “about 70 percent” of the 12,533 terrorist murders in the world last year, according to a report by the National Counterterrorism Center (NCTC).

The information comes from the 2011 NCTC Report on Terrorism, which is based on information available as of March 12, 2012.

“Sunni extremists accounted for the greatest number of terrorist attacks and fatalities for the third consecutive year,” the report says. “More than 5,700 incidents were attributed to Sunni extremists, accounting for nearly 56 percent of all attacks and about 70 percent of all fatalities.”

The report says that in 2011, a total of 10,283 terrorism attacks across the world killed 12,533 people. Terrorism also is blamed for 25,903 injuries and 5,554 kidnappings.

According to NCTC, of the 12,533 terrorism-related deaths worldwide, 8,886 were perpetrated by “Sunni extremists,” 1,926 by “secular/political/anarchist” groups, 1,519 by “unknown” factions, 170 by a category described as “other”, and 77 by “Neo-Nazi/Fascist/White Supremacist” groups.
http://www.webcitation.org/query?url=ht ... 2012-08-04

The report:

http://www.webcitation.org/query?url=ht ... 2012-08-04

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http://www.pewglobal.org/2005/07/14/isl ... n-publics/
In the Muslim world, then, we celebrate what we call the martyr-bombers [i.e. suicide-bombers]. To us they are heroes defending the things we hold sacred. Polls in the Middle East show 75% of people in favour of martyr-bombings.
http://www.webcitation.org/query?url=ht ... 2012-02-21
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Love your source: http://www.webcitation.org/query?url=ht ... 9fb25a82d7[/img]
Serious and impartial.
Just like mine which "proves" that the Pope is a secret Muslim: http://www.landoverbaptist.net/index.ph ... al-muslim/
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We have now established that Frances is not a Christian nor a false Christian catholic! What is he then? The suggestion of Muslim heritage is very powerful but as unbiased Creation Scientists we must look for other evidence. I’m sorry to tell you that it is there. The case is waterproof.

Conclusion: The Pope is not a Christian. What is he?

Is the Pope Catholic? NO, He’s a (Liberal) Muslim!
By Elmer G. White, Distinguished Professor of Prayer Healing

Is the pope Catholic?

This is one of the most pressing questions of our time. It has become a rhetorical device of something too obvious to consider. However, nothing is too obvious. Creation Science is the discipline that is totally unbiased and prepared to tackle even the most common preconceptions with a novel, fresh and bold approach. We have done that. We now have the answer. It is “no“!

Catholics are not Christians but they claim they are. Thus, we start by the minimal list of things required for Christianity:

One God (Exodus 3:14) who is Three in Trinity (John 10:30).
God has Created all in 6 days (Genesis 1:1).
The first woman sinned and caused the Fall (Genesis 3:6). We pay the prize.
Jesus died for our sins (Mark 15:25). He is God (John 10:30). Without Him there is no Salvation (John 3:16).
Unbelievers go into Hell (John 3:18).

Now let us turn to Pope Frances and look at these things and many others in our quest to answer if he is Catholic.

1. Jesus

The Pope does not think that Jesus is required for Salvation. Frances says, in fact, that you can be an unbeliever and go to Heaven.

You ask me if the God of the Christians forgives those who don’t believe and who don’t seek the faith. I start by saying – and this is the fundamental thing – that God’s mercy has no limits if you go to him with a sincere and contrite heart. The issue for those who do not believe in God is to obey their conscience.

This contradicts Jesus’ very own words:

John 14:6
Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

In fact, Frances says that the Trinity is obsolete and can be disposed of! He endorses Jew and Muslim Salvation (apparently ignorant of, e.g., John 14:6).

The plan of salvation also includes those who acknowledge the Creator, in the first place amongst whom are the Muslims; these profess to hold the faith of Abraham, and together with us they adore the one, merciful God, mankind’s judge on the last day.

This gives us the first hint about Frances’s true affiliations. Frances says that the Muslims come “first and foremost”. This is a clear sign of the Pope’s true loyalty! In his opinion Muslim Grace >>>> Christian Grace. This can also be seen in the following image, where Frances licks the feet of a Muslim man.

We have now established that Frances is not a Christian nor a false Christian catholic! What is he then? The suggestion of Muslim heritage is very powerful but as unbiased Creation Scientists we must look for other evidence. I’m sorry to tell you that it is there. The case is waterproof.

Conclusion: The Pope is not a Christian. What is he?

2. Endorsing evolution

Frances says that the idolatrous deity of evolution and the Big Band demiurg are the truth.

The theories of evolution and the Big Bang are real and God is not “a magician with a magic wand”, Pope Francis has declared.
Speaking at the Pontifical Academy of Sciences, the Pope made comments which experts said put an end to the “pseudo theories” of creationism and intelligent design.

Unsurprisingly, also Muslim scholars promote the theory of evolution:

The scientific evidence available to us tells us that the beginning of life was in an environment similar to swamps, which are composed basically of water and and earth matter. This produced clay, where the first forms of life began in the form of single cell organisms. These organisms multiplied reproducing themselves first by splitting and division. However, later, they paired as males and females to reproduce as they took other life forms in the sea and on land. Reproduction has become in the form of uniting the watery genetic materials of males and females, as the following verse (32.8) reveals.
32.8. Then He made his offspring from a quintessence of despised water (coming out of parents).


Both disregard Genesis 1, the historical account of God’s Creative activities 6000+ years ago!

Genesis 1:24
And God said, Let the earth bring forth the living creature after his kind, cattle, and creeping thing, and beast of the earth after his kind: and it was so.

This is not a surprise, Frances in in good terms with Muslim leaders, consumes their every word of blasphemy and listens to their false teachings as proven by this image:

Conclusion: The Pope is a Muslim.
Told you so. :dm:
(Apologies for derailing the thread, but silly vs silly and we can all play at that game, and I was so happy to find out that the Pope is not Catholic that I wanted to share. Next myth to be demolished is that wild bears shit in the woods. Carry on. )
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So you're disputing the veracity of statistics gathered by the US National Counter Terrorism Center?

http://www.webcitation.org/query?url=ht ... 2012-08-04

If you want to know what would happen if the Muslim provinces were given autonomy, look no further than Aceh.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/worl ... /83325572/

Sharia enforced on the non-Muslim population. True oppression. I'd support a Buddhist uprising by locals in that case.
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ot mien kampf, you completely missed my point. Wooosh, that's the sound of logic going over your head.

You target Islam for violent acts, but every religion in the world is guilty of same. I simply listed Israel because it is one of the few definitively religious states in the world.

I'm not denying Islam is guilty, at all, but for you to say they are the worst, whilst implicitly refusing to acknowledge any provocation, shows an ignorance of history that I hope is only because you choose to ignore facts.

The Christian world has its Spanish Inquisitions, its Holy Wars, its witch-burnings, The self-designated Jewish State of Israel has Gaza and a few others in its past.

Every monotheistic faith has had, or continues to have, its day of violence.

For you to say I singled out Israel is anti-semitic is puerile, the last refuge of sensitive, simplistic fools. Perhaps you could name another Jewish state for me? I insist that neither Jews nor Muslims predominantly support what happens in Gaza or suicide bombings and senseless violence.

Your mentality seems to indicate that any religious violence must, of necessity, be supported by 100% of the adherents. Seriously? And you launnhc ad homs at me for being simplistic? Duh. :facepalm:

If you cannot see this, or choose not to see it, you are either an idiot, or you choose not to see it.

IN both cases, your stubbornness cannot be broken by logic.
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ot mien kampf wrote:So you're disputing the veracity of statistics gathered by the US National Counter Terrorism Center?
Impossible! How could he do that? Americans never lie! Especially their government! I mean just look at the fantastic quality od politicians they produce...Hillary...she never lied, right?...Donald...does he even know how to spell lie?

Naive. Redneck. Gullible. Misinformed. Brainwashed.

I'm guessing ex-armed forces or police.
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