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Just get my 60-day extension in Phuket-town: after 45 day free of visa, that makes 105 days stay in Phuket, visa costs, zero on arrival, 1900B for extension and 2100B for 3 taxi-trips from Patong to Phuket-town (can do it cheaper wth bus). totaal 4000 B or about 125 US !!
In cambodia, 35 US on arrival and 50US fro extensions, makes total of 85US for 60 days. What means Phuket-sandbox is slitely cheaper then KOW visa-prices !! If drinking 3 Changs instead of 3 Anchors, your even i suppose !! Sjookamooi !!
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As they say here, check with your airline, but Thailand appears determined to open to tourists for high season.
Previously all Sandboxers had to fly directly to their sandbox destination.
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their aiming for vaccinated international arrival's to be quarantine free Nov 1st ( BUT note the word COULD)
also give them an out LOL
Bangkok could be back on the tourist map and reopen by Nov 1 if double-dose mass vaccinations cover at least 70% of the capital's population before this month ends, says the Centre for Covid-19 Situation Administration (CCSA).

It was the first time the CCSA spelled out Nov 1 as a tentative reopening timeframe for Bangkok. It came after Bangkok governor Aswin Kwanmuang earlier suggested the Oct 1 reopening, the original tourism restart schedule for Bangkok and tourism districts in four other provinces, may be too ambitious.

The other provinces are Chon Buri (Pattaya City, Bang Lamung district, and Sattahip district), Phetchaburi (Cha-am district), Prachuap Khiri Khan (Hua Hin district) and Chiang Mai (Muang, Mae Taeng, Mae Rim and Doi Tao districts).

.......On Wednesday, Chawetsan Namwat, acting CCSA spokesman, agreed the 70% double-dose vaccination threshold must be achieved prior to resuming tourism.

He said the 70% inoculation target was expected to be met by the end of this month,


As of Monday, 42% of Bangkok's 7 million residents have been double-jabbed, according to the CCSA.
https://www.bangkokpost.com/thailand/ge ... -says-ccsa
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Governor appeals to CCSA to allow Phuket to open bars, sell alcohol
Monday 27 September 2021, 06:59PM
By The Phuket News
PHUKET: Phuket Governor Narong Woonciew has submitted a formal request to the national government to allow Phuket ease certain COVID restrictions ‒ including allowing alcohol to be sold and bars and entertainment venues to reopen in order to help alleviate the financial hardship suffered by the residents on the island.

The appeal, issued today (Sept 27) and addressed to the Center for COVID-19 Situation Administration (CCSA), was titled “Policy recommendations and guidelines for adjusting disease control measures in workplaces or at risk locations” and specifically referred to the regulations issued under Article 9 of the Emergency Decree on Public Administration in Emergency Situations.

In his letter Governor Narong pointed out that the Phuket Province has opened as a pilot area for tourists under the Phuket Sandbox scheme since July 1, to help drive the economy while implementing disease control measures by allowing tourists from low and medium risk countries to travel to Thailand without quarantine, all in accordance with the rules set out by the Ministry of Health and the Ministry of Tourism and Sports.

Upon arrival, the tourists must stay in the hotel or the accommodation specified in the entry permit, and use restaurants or beverage services and other establishments that must comply with public health measures in tourism in Phuket while the tourists are observing the specified time period (7 or 14 days stay in Phuket, depending on whether the tourist has entered as a Phuket Sandbox tourist or as a 7+7 Extension scheme tourist).

Governor Narong also pointed out that under regulations issued under the emergency decree, Phuket as an ‘Orange’ level controlled zone could allow restaurants or other food or beverage outlets may allow food and beverages to be consumed on the premises, but the sale and consumption of liquor or alcoholic beverages was prohibited in the venue.

“Phuket Province has brought in such measures as to order the ban on the sale of liquor and for people to refrain from drinking alcohol or alcoholic beverages in restaurants,” he noted.

“However, as restaurants and food establishments in hotels and other food or beverage outlets serve Phuket Sandbox tourists, the tourists are affected. The service is inconsistent with the guidelines for promoting tourism in Phuket, which has strict disease control measures,” Governor Narong said.

“In addition, due to the situation regarding the epidemic of COVID-19 in the past, the CCSA has set measures that all service places and places that are at risk of spreading disease have been closed. This group of entrepreneurs have not been able to open a business since the beginning.

“There are still food or beverage outlets that are unable to open, but need to open and want to open in accordance with the disease control measures so they can serve tourists traveling according to the Phuket Sandbox project and general tourists are directly affected,” he said.

“Business owners discussed together and organised a small group meeting with relevant government agencies and they have recommended a policy and guidelines for adjusting disease control measures in the workplace so that food or beverage outlets will be able to sell liquor or alcoholic beverages in the shop within the specifications of the law, with more stringent public health measures than the government has set.

“The measures were proposed to the Phuket Communicable Disease Committee at meeting No. 55/2021 on September 16, 2021, in order to appropriately manage and enforce epidemic control measures in places at risk of COVID-19 disease and in accordance with the situation occurring, which is different in each area,” Governor Narong added.

“Because Phuket Province has implemented a project to open a pilot area for tourism Phuket Sandbox to drive the country’s economy, we have therefore agreed to submit the policy recommendations and guidelines for adjusting disease control measures in an establishment or a place that is at risk of spreading the disease. The CCSA may consider easing the enforcement measures, the measures with food or beverage distribution establishments. Details as attached,” Governor Narong said in concluding his letter.

The suggested measures included in the addendum to the formal request asked for consideration to allow the following:

1. Guidelines for practices and measures in establishments, restaurants, beverages, or risky places for the spread of COVID-19 in Phuket to ask for consideration to open the following activities:

1.1 Determine the opening hours to allow the service to be performed at the normal time of that location.

1.2 Permit to sell and drink liquor or alcoholic beverages within the shop [venue] by specifying it to be sold during 11:00 - 14.00 hrs. and from 17.00 - 22.00 hrs.

1.3 Music performances are to be permitted, but not more than three instruments, or music may be played in the shop [venue] at normal times.

The measures (above) are recommended guidelines for consideration which may be required to be re-evaluated after an initial trial in order to evaluate the operation in the future phases.
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“However, as restaurants and food establishments in hotels and other food or beverage outlets serve Phuket Sandbox tourists, the tourists are affected. The service is inconsistent with the guidelines for promoting tourism in Phuket, which has strict disease control measures,” Governor Narong said.
Too right. Must be pretty damn boring if you go there under the Sandbox initiative and find you can't have a wine with your meal or have a cool, cleansing ale by the pool side. I'm not suggesting the girly bars on Bangla in Patong should necessarily reopen but damn, if you can't have a drink at your hotel or restaurant, that's a real show stopper unless you're a teetotaller.
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with infected cases over 200/day this whole month, opening the bars will be a huge mistake.
its not so much the alcohol, but the interaction and nobody giving a dam once they start drinking

you have been able to get a drink no problem this whole time
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clutchcargo wrote: Tue Sep 28, 2021 8:12 pm
“However, as restaurants and food establishments in hotels and other food or beverage outlets serve Phuket Sandbox tourists, the tourists are affected. The service is inconsistent with the guidelines for promoting tourism in Phuket, which has strict disease control measures,” Governor Narong said.
Too right. Must be pretty damn boring if you go there under the Sandbox initiative and find you can't have a wine with your meal or have a cool, cleansing ale by the pool side. I'm not suggesting the girly bars on Bangla in Patong should necessarily reopen but damn, if you can't have a drink at your hotel or restaurant, that's a real show stopper unless you're a teetotaller.
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i am today 7 weeks in phuket and had not a single day problems to get a beer, but useally in a stone pot, a plastic cup, or in a tea-bucket !! Some even give it in a glass, and exactly there the police enterted when i was drinking it, they took fotos from what was on the tap, knever asked me a word but the day after it was closed, to re-open the day after. In Soy Bangla, they serve everywhere, last weeks the police came around 10 pm to close, some day they permitted until 12 and of course some of them tried to stay open later. What happend the day after: complete shutdown: same system as for 10-year-old school-children: If you are nougty, tomorrow you will get punished !! And ofcourse after midnight you always can find beer on the street soemwhere, or at 7-11 (no idea what time they close, but not open 24-h !!) Sok di kap !!
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The first step will be alcohol available in restaurants possibly November 1st, if not December 1st, the knock on effect being bars not opening until January 1st. That's the feeling I get from the latest CCSA meeting. No reason for Phuket to attract special privileges.

With the low real tourist numbers to the Sandbox it's no real surprise there is limited attraction to travel for a higher priced holiday with ongoing restrictions to drink out of a tea-cup, with one eye over your shoulder should the corrupt police force decide they need a bit of tea money that particular day. Holidays are supposed to be fun and relaxing, not an exercise in local law breaking.
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the powers to be have heard...... BUT ONLY till 10 pm! so start ur evening early :-)
Phuket officially allows drinking and selling alcohol in restaurants, effective October 1st
PHUKET: From this Friday (Oct 1), all “food and beverage outlets” in Phuket are allowed to sell alcohol until 10pm. Alcohol may also be consumed on the premises, including at restaurants.

However, all businesses operating as “entertainment places” are to remain closed, under an order issued by Phuket Governor Narong Woonciew yesterday, posted publicly online late last night (Sept 28).

The order, Phuket Provincial Order No. 5896/2564, is marked to come into effect on Friday (Oct 1) and is to remain in effect until further notice.
https://www.thephuketnews.com/booze-ban ... -81547.php

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The new order comes into effect this Friday (Oct 1). Image: PR Phuket

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