Thailand Travel Restrictions and Info

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In Victoria there may be the start of a second wave and they are talking of confining people to their houses in several suburbs. Arizona is now the worst in the US after re opening last week. In the last week they have thousands of cases. So much for sunshine being the enemy of the virus.
The first Spanish Flu wave killed 4 million, the second wave 40-50 million. I wouldn’t be looking to glennb6 for advice. I bet he said all along it was a conspiracy or just another flu. It’s interesting in Australia that the usual tens of thousands of flu cases that we get every winter have diminished to a few hundred.

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The worlds tourist destinations are already targeting the more affluent, such as Dubai. Gonna compete with the Burj Al-Arab?

This is a bizarre business model as they already are fully set up for mass tourism and as they admit the sector is already dependent on Chinese tour groups and backpackers. What will they do about all that dependency in the transition period?

It all sound like very good news for Cambodia and Vietnam as soon as they open their doors properly. The moment Thailand does the same it will just attract the same type of people and their dreams of being the Dubai of SE Asia will fade away.
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CEOCambodiaNews wrote: Sun Jun 21, 2020 9:25 am Thailand to turn away from mass tourism, target the wealthy
Kingdom considers protocols for return of foreign tourists
published : 19 Jun 2020 at 11:42
writer: Bloomberg News

The government's tourism-revival strategy is to target big spenders seeking privacy and social distancing in the Covid-19 era, rather than try to attract a large number of visitors, according to Tourism Minister Phiphat Ratchakitprakarn.

The pandemic provides an opportunity to reset the sector, which had become reliant on Chinese groups and backpackers, he said in an interview with Bloomberg News.

Once the country’s borders are reopened and so-called travel bubbles are agreed upon, marketing efforts will be geared toward wealthier individuals who want holidays with minimal risks.

The government will initially allow a small number of arrivals, such as some business executives and medical tourists. It is also working with the travel industry to identify and invite individuals in target demographics, which will probably include previous visitors to luxury resorts in the islands of Phuket, Samui, Phangan and Phi Phi, the minister said.

Phuket is “a prototype” because it has all the needed facilities.

People may be required to pass Covid-19 screenings before traveling and upon arriving, choose a single resort island and remain for a minimum period of time.

The “high-end visitors” will be able to travel freely while they’re on the island and be allowed to leave for home or other destinations in Thailand once the minimum 14 days have passed. The country plans to court such visitors, possibly during the winter months of November-February when European and American travelers seek out warmer climates, Mr Phiphat said.

“One person can easily spend as much as five by staying at the finest hotels,” he said, adding that full and free travel should become a “thing of the past.”
https://www.bangkokpost.com/thailand/ge ... he-wealthy
Once again thai govt shanked the ball deep into the woods left...

Back in the 70s there were entrepreneurs who opened bars, plenty of little Noi's and little Lek's that were more than happy to 'work bar' and make ten times what they could dream of earning anywhere else and maybe even get hooked up with a falang, and enough landlords who saw opportunity to establish 'zones' along with the bar owners. Followed hotels, restaurants, and dozens of supporting businesses. Free enterprise at it's best, the the thai govt more or less looked the other way.

Over the next 30 odd years Thailand developed a reputation as an adult vacation destination. Actually it became a highly successful world class,highly profitable adult destination. Low cost, warm weather, a cool 'mystique', friendly, safe, and great food. Some may say it was the most successful adult vacation destination in the world.

Now imagine if the govt had tried to dream up and implement such a plan - they would have screwed it up majorly and made the country a laughing stock. Fortunately they basically keep hands off (but for some brown envelopes), and other than some complaining prudes and feminists, all was good. Take the kids to disneyland but let the adults come to thailand for their adult fun.

And then comes the current regime, their response to the flu scam, and desire to be viewed as hi-so. Woops, 18% of gdp which was tourism - poof, and it's gone. And they come up with a 'scheme' to attract the wealth family tourists on what could be called North Korean style supervised holiday, and tout that it's the 'new thing, the new way'.

I'm just a retired guest here and I'm embarrassed for the fools who thought this up, and it's not even my country to worry about.
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What the Thai government bumblers seem to forget is that two or three dozen planeloads a day of ordinary tourists could be arriving. And the next day and the next day until hundreds of thousands a week come and spend all their holiday/backpacker/retiree cash.

Every kind of street/mall business would benefit greatly from the all-day injection of cash. Money would pour into pockets of bus/van/taxi drivers who would pour cash into the toll road coffers. 7-11s and TOPS and Foodlands and Villas would fill their cash registers and forward the VAT payments. Restaurants and hole-in-the-wall and pavement eateries would gush with cash.

And the treasury would pump up its foreign cash reserves.

Remember, it's the rich one-per-centers who hunker down behind villa and resort walls and have their own cooks and maids and drivers. And frankly, given half a chance at open borders, they would hit the road to Tokyo, Taipei, Saigon and Europe rather than stay at home because they could boast about it. And shop cheaper.

Compare and contrast. The cash from the ordinary joes from the UK, NorthAm, Australia, Vietnam, Cambodia, China and SKorea et al flows all day, all week, all month, all year.

Alas, I was describing the past.
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Of course this “new abnormal” plan is going to spectacularly fail but not before they try it once. It looks almost a certainty that Thailand is not going to be an option this year for many people, as even if this “plan” is suspended soon after it’s begun, most tourists would have already booked their vacations to other destinations. In other words, loss of face will be massive.

One thing would be good, that they allow international transit through Bangkok without restrictions.
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willyhilly wrote: Sun Jun 21, 2020 10:57 am In Victoria there may be the start of a second wave and they are talking of confining people to their houses in several suburbs. Arizona is now the worst in the US after re opening last week. In the last week they have thousands of cases. So much for sunshine being the enemy of the virus.
The first Spanish Flu wave killed 4 million, the second wave 40-50 million. I wouldn’t be looking to glennb6 for advice. I bet he said all along it was a conspiracy or just another flu. It’s interesting in Australia that the usual tens of thousands of flu cases that we get every winter have diminished to a few hundred.

[Mod edit: no need for name calling, take a day off]
well hillywillie, I'm glad I didn't leave you with an ambiguous opinion of my view on this flu scam. Mod: no worries if he called names or whatever, always good for mental judo replies ;)

Sooo, you are saying that in a country of 25.5 million people, 7461 caught the flu (0.029%) and 102 people died with/of/ CV (0.0004%) and that's a valid reason for a county lockdown and mass hysteria?

I could write a dissertation or more about the scams, propaganda, manipulation, and outright fraud that govts, the med establishment, and 'authorities' have pulled, but this isn't the forum for that. If you're one to only believe what is fed to you on CNN and the like, the completely and outrageously wrong death and infection models and projections from the WHO and other medical orgs, the worldwide number of deaths for the first half of the year are but 0.005% of the total world pop, and infections are only 0.11% and that is if you believe the 'tests' were valid. Tests like the ones in Tanzania that returned positive for a goat, a paw-paw fruit, and a dab of motor oil.... yea.

So keep the fear factor jacked up to 11 on your headphones hilly, but don't try plugging that feed into the loud speakers because lest you embarrass yourself further, and watch out for dust bunnies too :)
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Meanwhile in Europa:

Spain reopens its borders as state of emergency comes to an end

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-heal ... SKBN23S0BP
MADRID (Reuters) - Passengers wearing masks and wheeling suitcases arrived at Madrid’s main airport on Sunday as Spain opened its borders to most European countries and ended a state of emergency imposed to contain the coronavirus.

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“We will allow British visitors to enter Spain just like the rest of the European Union or Schengen area from 21 June freely and without the need for the quarantine,” foreign minister Arancha Gonzalez Laya told BBC News on Saturday.

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Spain, which has recorded more than 245,000 coronavirus cases and over 28,000 deaths, has been easing its lockdown restrictions in recent weeks.

Virus? What virus? 8)
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South East Asia is beginning to look a bit backward. It was first in the line of fire, was virtually unaffected by the virus compared to Europe and the Americas, despite being wide open in those critical Jan-Mar months. It has crushed it's economies that were so heavily reliant on tourism, and looks a long way away from reversing this crippling policy.

What are they so scared of?
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Didn't see this GOOD news item at all. It was published Sunday morning. Anyway, pressure from owners of entertainment venues seems to have worked. Pubs and bars reopening "in July." Hope that means July 1.

https://www.bangkokpost.com/business/19 ... en-in-july
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Real fucktards in this government

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