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The worst kept secret in international cricket has finally been admitted by mentally ill former English opening batsman Marcus Trescothick: England cheated to narrowly win the 2005 Ashes series.
In his new tome, Trescothick writes that he was in charge of a conspiracy to use mints to manufacture the shine on the ball to increase the efficiency and longevity of the deadly reverse-swing that rattled the Australian middle-order. No wonder McGrath and co. could not replicate the late swing that Flintoff and Jones regularly produced in the same conditions. The Australians played within the rules. The English did not.
Fletcher and Vaughan encouraged the ball tampering and Trescothick admits in his book that he even experimented before the series began until he found the right brand of mint. He also writes that the English team tried using sugary sweets to create a false shine during the 2001 Ashes series. Logic suggests that in the years between the English tampered with the ball against every opponent at home.
To put this incident in perspective for our loyal English readers I offer an analogy. Maradona’s hand of god goal was a spur of the moment decision. The English fraud was planned and executed by the coach, the captain and his deputy over many years, many matches and hundreds of net sessions.
During the 2005 Ashes the Australians raised this exact allegation and were howled down by the English management, captain and press. So, not only are the English premeditated cheats but bald-faced liars as well.
We will learn plenty about the character of the English public and cricket as this information is digested and understood. A team that won by illegal deception were awarded MBE’s and were cheered and lauded throughout the nation. I imagine our shared Monarch will not be amused when she learns of this deception.
There is already a campaign to flood her mailbox with letters demanding that the cheats return their medals and be publicly humiliated for denigrating the humble game of cricket and the reputation of Great Britain.
In his new tome, Trescothick writes that he was in charge of a conspiracy to use mints to manufacture the shine on the ball to increase the efficiency and longevity of the deadly reverse-swing that rattled the Australian middle-order. No wonder McGrath and co. could not replicate the late swing that Flintoff and Jones regularly produced in the same conditions. The Australians played within the rules. The English did not.
Fletcher and Vaughan encouraged the ball tampering and Trescothick admits in his book that he even experimented before the series began until he found the right brand of mint. He also writes that the English team tried using sugary sweets to create a false shine during the 2001 Ashes series. Logic suggests that in the years between the English tampered with the ball against every opponent at home.
To put this incident in perspective for our loyal English readers I offer an analogy. Maradona’s hand of god goal was a spur of the moment decision. The English fraud was planned and executed by the coach, the captain and his deputy over many years, many matches and hundreds of net sessions.
During the 2005 Ashes the Australians raised this exact allegation and were howled down by the English management, captain and press. So, not only are the English premeditated cheats but bald-faced liars as well.
We will learn plenty about the character of the English public and cricket as this information is digested and understood. A team that won by illegal deception were awarded MBE’s and were cheered and lauded throughout the nation. I imagine our shared Monarch will not be amused when she learns of this deception.
There is already a campaign to flood her mailbox with letters demanding that the cheats return their medals and be publicly humiliated for denigrating the humble game of cricket and the reputation of Great Britain.
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SPORTCRICKETBALL TAMPERING
Mints, sun cream ... the full monty: Panesar admits to ball tampering
By Ian McCullough
May 25, 2019 — 8.06pm
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Monty Panesar has revealed that England's bowlers used mints to alter the condition of the ball and assist with reverse swing.
"We all tried to change the condition of the ball, because reverse swing has such a huge impact," Panesar wrote in his autobiography, The Full Monty, which has been serialised in the Daily Mail.
Spin doctor: Monty Panesar takes the wicket of Andrew Symonds during the fifth Ashes Test match at the SCG in 2007. The spinner has admitted to changing the condition of the ball during his England career.
The spinner has admitted to changing the condition of the ball during his England career.CREDIT:REUTERS
"When I came into the England side, my job was to prepare the ball for the seamers.
"They'd say, 'Listen mate, if you want to bowl with us it's on one condition. Make sure you don't get your sweaty hands on our shiny side.
"Opening bowler Jimmy Anderson would say: 'I just want you to keep that ball as dry as possible.'"
The spinner, who featured in the Ashes-winning series in 2009 and 2010-11, said he also used the zip on his trousers to rough up the ball and admits his actions were probably against the spirit of the game.
"Whether we broke the laws depends on how you interpret them," he said.
"We found that mints and sun cream had an effect on the saliva, and that helped the ball to reverse.
"I might also have 'accidentally' caught the ball on the zip of my trouser pocket to rough it up a little.
"That was probably a hairline fracture of the spirit of the game, even if the laws said you were allowed to 'use your uniform'."
The revelations are sure to reignite the ball-tampering debate in light of the suspensions of Steve Smith, Dave Warner and Cameron Bancroft for using sandpaper to doctor the condition of the ball in South Africa in 2018.
It was claimed that ball tampering in international cricket was more widespread than believed in the wake of that affair.
According to law 42.3 of the MCC’s Laws of Cricket, a fielder can polish a ball “provided that no artificial substance is used”.
The ICC found South Africa captain Faf du Plessis guilty of ball tampering after using mints to alter the condition of the ball against Australia in 2016. He was also been fined for rubbing the ball on the zipper of his pants against Pakistan in 2013.
In the 2017 Ashes, James Anderson was accused of ball tampering after being seen digging his left thumbnail into the ball during Australia’s second innings in the Boxing Day Test. Anderson described the claims as "ridiculous".
AAP
Let he who is without sin throw the first stone....................no not you England....
Mints, sun cream ... the full monty: Panesar admits to ball tampering
By Ian McCullough
May 25, 2019 — 8.06pm
A
Monty Panesar has revealed that England's bowlers used mints to alter the condition of the ball and assist with reverse swing.
"We all tried to change the condition of the ball, because reverse swing has such a huge impact," Panesar wrote in his autobiography, The Full Monty, which has been serialised in the Daily Mail.
Spin doctor: Monty Panesar takes the wicket of Andrew Symonds during the fifth Ashes Test match at the SCG in 2007. The spinner has admitted to changing the condition of the ball during his England career.
The spinner has admitted to changing the condition of the ball during his England career.CREDIT:REUTERS
"When I came into the England side, my job was to prepare the ball for the seamers.
"They'd say, 'Listen mate, if you want to bowl with us it's on one condition. Make sure you don't get your sweaty hands on our shiny side.
"Opening bowler Jimmy Anderson would say: 'I just want you to keep that ball as dry as possible.'"
The spinner, who featured in the Ashes-winning series in 2009 and 2010-11, said he also used the zip on his trousers to rough up the ball and admits his actions were probably against the spirit of the game.
"Whether we broke the laws depends on how you interpret them," he said.
"We found that mints and sun cream had an effect on the saliva, and that helped the ball to reverse.
"I might also have 'accidentally' caught the ball on the zip of my trouser pocket to rough it up a little.
"That was probably a hairline fracture of the spirit of the game, even if the laws said you were allowed to 'use your uniform'."
The revelations are sure to reignite the ball-tampering debate in light of the suspensions of Steve Smith, Dave Warner and Cameron Bancroft for using sandpaper to doctor the condition of the ball in South Africa in 2018.
It was claimed that ball tampering in international cricket was more widespread than believed in the wake of that affair.
According to law 42.3 of the MCC’s Laws of Cricket, a fielder can polish a ball “provided that no artificial substance is used”.
The ICC found South Africa captain Faf du Plessis guilty of ball tampering after using mints to alter the condition of the ball against Australia in 2016. He was also been fined for rubbing the ball on the zipper of his pants against Pakistan in 2013.
In the 2017 Ashes, James Anderson was accused of ball tampering after being seen digging his left thumbnail into the ball during Australia’s second innings in the Boxing Day Test. Anderson described the claims as "ridiculous".
AAP
Let he who is without sin throw the first stone....................no not you England....
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Just not cricket, is it?
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https://www.bbc.com/sport/cricket/48478118
Cricket World Cup: Australia's Steve Smith & David Warner 'should not be booed'
Screw these guys. You've got a long, long summer ahead ladies.
Think about the kid says Langer, think about the kids when they were watching this team cheat. The truth never came out. The bowlers definitely knew what was going on.
Australia coach Justin Langer has asked fans not to boo Steve Smith and David Warner during the World Cup.
The batsmen recently returned from year-long bans for their part in the ball-tampering scandal and were jeered throughout the warm-up victory over England in Southampton last week.
Defending champions Australia start their campaign against Afghanistan in Bristol at 13:30 BST on Saturday.
"They made a mistake and paid a big price for it," said Langer.
"The media talk about earning respect and it's really important that people show respect as well."
Sections of the crowd chanted "cheat" at both players and fans wore costumes referencing sandpaper.
Smith and Warner, along with Cameron Bancroft, were found to have played a role in using sandpaper to tamper with the ball against South Africa in March 2018.
"After the experience of Hampshire, we have a pretty good idea what to expect - we've talked about it a lot and we can put strategies in place," said Langer.
"That said, when it happens it doesn't make it any easier. They are human beings, that's the truth - and that's what I find the hardest.
"I'm a dad and a lot of the time the kids see it. You feel for them personally and they are going to have to have thick skins.
"But I'd be disappointed by any player being booed at any cricket ground, regardless of what country they play for. It's never a good look when that happens."
Cricket World Cup: Australia's Steve Smith & David Warner 'should not be booed'
Screw these guys. You've got a long, long summer ahead ladies.
Think about the kid says Langer, think about the kids when they were watching this team cheat. The truth never came out. The bowlers definitely knew what was going on.
Australia coach Justin Langer has asked fans not to boo Steve Smith and David Warner during the World Cup.
The batsmen recently returned from year-long bans for their part in the ball-tampering scandal and were jeered throughout the warm-up victory over England in Southampton last week.
Defending champions Australia start their campaign against Afghanistan in Bristol at 13:30 BST on Saturday.
"They made a mistake and paid a big price for it," said Langer.
"The media talk about earning respect and it's really important that people show respect as well."
Sections of the crowd chanted "cheat" at both players and fans wore costumes referencing sandpaper.
Smith and Warner, along with Cameron Bancroft, were found to have played a role in using sandpaper to tamper with the ball against South Africa in March 2018.
"After the experience of Hampshire, we have a pretty good idea what to expect - we've talked about it a lot and we can put strategies in place," said Langer.
"That said, when it happens it doesn't make it any easier. They are human beings, that's the truth - and that's what I find the hardest.
"I'm a dad and a lot of the time the kids see it. You feel for them personally and they are going to have to have thick skins.
"But I'd be disappointed by any player being booed at any cricket ground, regardless of what country they play for. It's never a good look when that happens."
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Aussies looking good at the break.*
* I guess they must be cheating, dirty rotten scoundrels!
* I guess they must be cheating, dirty rotten scoundrels!
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Read two good books lately about the sandpaper thing and "crossing the line". Australian cricketers have been ugly for a very long time however the current team seem to be behaving themselves. Geoff Lemon's book "Steve Smith's Men" is a great read.
Watching Australia knocking off the Afghanis right now.
Watching Australia knocking off the Afghanis right now.
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Is this "new tome" the one published in 2008?Arget wrote: ↑Fri May 31, 2019 10:13 pm The worst kept secret in international cricket has finally been admitted by mentally ill former English opening batsman Marcus Trescothick: England cheated to narrowly win the 2005 Ashes series.
In his new tome, Trescothick writes that he was in charge of a conspiracy to use mints to manufacture the shine on the ball to increase the efficiency and longevity of the deadly reverse-swing that rattled the Australian middle-order. No wonder McGrath and co. could not replicate the late swing that Flintoff and Jones regularly produced in the same conditions. The Australians played within the rules. The English did not.
Fletcher and Vaughan encouraged the ball tampering and Trescothick admits in his book that he even experimented before the series began until he found the right brand of mint. He also writes that the English team tried using sugary sweets to create a false shine during the 2001 Ashes series. Logic suggests that in the years between the English tampered with the ball against every opponent at home.
To put this incident in perspective for our loyal English readers I offer an analogy. Maradona’s hand of god goal was a spur of the moment decision. The English fraud was planned and executed by the coach, the captain and his deputy over many years, many matches and hundreds of net sessions.
During the 2005 Ashes the Australians raised this exact allegation and were howled down by the English management, captain and press. So, not only are the English premeditated cheats but bald-faced liars as well.
We will learn plenty about the character of the English public and cricket as this information is digested and understood. A team that won by illegal deception were awarded MBE’s and were cheered and lauded throughout the nation. I imagine our shared Monarch will not be amused when she learns of this deception.
There is already a campaign to flood her mailbox with letters demanding that the cheats return their medals and be publicly humiliated for denigrating the humble game of cricket and the reputation of Great Britain.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/cricket/7579005.stm
Re: The Cricket World Cup
Another former top side being wiped out for a pitiful score. Pakistan were woeful the other day.
New Zealand knocked them off in great style at over 8 an over. They'll be in the mix in the latter stages...
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I agree with this by to some extent. Incessant booing at the grounds, especially during The Ashes will get tiresome. I don't think many cricket fans will keep it going for long.angsta wrote: ↑Sat Jun 01, 2019 2:32 pm https://www.bbc.com/sport/cricket/48478118
Cricket World Cup: Australia's Steve Smith & David Warner 'should not be booed'
Screw these guys. You've got a long, long summer ahead ladies.
Think about the kid says Langer, think about the kids when they were watching this team cheat. The truth never came out. The bowlers definitely knew what was going on.
Australia coach Justin Langer has asked fans not to boo Steve Smith and David Warner during the World Cup.
The batsmen recently returned from year-long bans for their part in the ball-tampering scandal and were jeered throughout the warm-up victory over England in Southampton last week.
Defending champions Australia start their campaign against Afghanistan in Bristol at 13:30 BST on Saturday.
"They made a mistake and paid a big price for it," said Langer.
"The media talk about earning respect and it's really important that people show respect as well."
Sections of the crowd chanted "cheat" at both players and fans wore costumes referencing sandpaper.
Smith and Warner, along with Cameron Bancroft, were found to have played a role in using sandpaper to tamper with the ball against South Africa in March 2018.
"After the experience of Hampshire, we have a pretty good idea what to expect - we've talked about it a lot and we can put strategies in place," said Langer.
"That said, when it happens it doesn't make it any easier. They are human beings, that's the truth - and that's what I find the hardest.
"I'm a dad and a lot of the time the kids see it. You feel for them personally and they are going to have to have thick skins.
"But I'd be disappointed by any player being booed at any cricket ground, regardless of what country they play for. It's never a good look when that happens."
However, the Barmy Army are another matter. Being much more inventive, they will not bother wasting their breath with just booing. I'm sure they are working hard on a few new songs just for Smith and Warner. And they will sing them incessantly, you can be sure of that. It's a pity the broadcasters will muffle out the sound so we will be unable to hear them properly. Hopefully they will get posted on YouTube for all to enjoy who can't be there.
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