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We have Absara authority to look after those temples, but I don't think they guard very well and we should change this one soon. Even the religions belief is changed by the time, but we still consider it as a sacred place where our ancestors used to. It isn't our suggestion to you or others tourists, but beside the law we should have moral for being a human.potty wrote:tjem this is the first place in the world i know of, where its said to be "sacred" for the people and there is no guard at the site.
for the tourists it may just appear as an abandoned ruin.
think YOU about what you are suggesting here...
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I think Samouth might be confusing 'sacred' with 'revenue raising'. Let's be honest, the rise in sanctity of these old temples was directly related to tourist numbers...taabarang wrote:Samouth said,
"It doesn't matter for how long the temple had been abandoned. Now, it is being taken care. We consider it as our sacred place.
Edit: before we dig out the flamethrowers, who owns Angkor Wat again?
Still others WERE Christians... actually there's some dispute about whether as many Christians as believed were given to the lions in the coliseums.Many were given to orgies, others had Christians killed by lions for entertainment and many had slaves.
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I think Samouth might be confusing 'sacred' with 'revenue raising'. Let's be honest, the rise in sanctity of these old temples was directly related to tourist numbers...StroppyChops wrote:taabarang wrote:Samouth said,
"It doesn't matter for how long the temple had been abandoned. Now, it is being taken care. We consider it as our sacred place.
Edit: before we dig out the flamethrowers, who owns Angkor Wat again?
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No flames Stroppy, but don't confuse the Apsara Authority with the Cambodian population.
Many people have told me it is their dream to visit Angkor Wat one day and that they consider it important spiritually - more like a pilgrimage than a trip to Disneyland.
(While the dream of the AA is more and more $$$$$, sure )
Not same same.
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Exactly. Potty is making the argument that because she can get away with something, it isn't wrong. How well the temples are guarded and the necessary respect we should have for them as national symbols are entirely different issues. Most adults don't need to be told this.prahkeitouj wrote:We have Absara authority to look after those temples, but I don't think they guard very well and we should change this one soon. Even the religions belief is changed by the time, but we still consider it as a sacred place where our ancestors used to. It isn't our suggestion to you or others tourists, but beside the law we should have moral for being a human.potty wrote:tjem this is the first place in the world i know of, where its said to be "sacred" for the people and there is no guard at the site.
for the tourists it may just appear as an abandoned ruin.
think YOU about what you are suggesting here...
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It is completely right. There is not enough signs at every temples in Siem Reap. Moreover, Apsara authority only put the guards at some popular temples like Angkor touch and Angkor Thom and is so careless about those small and remote temples. I hope that more and more tourists who plan to come to see our temples will read in advance about our culture and religion..Hey Anchor Bpee, Why sorry. It is not your fault and you are not bad though. Thank for helping me. It was my own problem Actually i know that English is not an easy language to learn as it has too many expressions, synonymy and stuff. However, i like it.Anchor Moy wrote:Sorry Samouth - my bad - I cut and pasted from wikipedia to explain about cliches because I thought they explain better than I can, (I am not an English teacher), but you are right that their language is not easy.Samouth wrote:Anchor Bpee, your language is not easy.
I just wanted to say that you have to be careful when you use some well known sayings like" When in Rome, do as the Romans do", because, as Taabarang says, this can be interpreted in different ways. And it's very easy to just repeat a saying without really thinking about what it means or what it could mean.
If you want to say that foreigners should have respect for local customs and beliefs, then I agree with that. But if that means that foreigners should behave like some Cambodians do and throw their rubbish around and make beautiful places dirty, then I don't agree.
Oops, it was my fault that i didn't demonstrate it clearly otherwise Taa Barang wouldn't have confused. He was right, without stressing clearly that above expression could mean differently from what i had intended.
Potty has a point here. Some sites that are considered sacred or of historic importance may look neglected, so foreigners may not realise their significance. There are fresh ancient sites being discovered in Cambodia all the time, and more and more tourists, particularly clueless ones, so I guess this is inevitable to a certain extent. However, if you are not sure something's ok, you can always ask. (Yes you can.)
IMO there are different sorts of bad behaviour by foreigners - some behaviour, like dressing inappropriately or climbing where they shouldn't, is caused by ignorance. and maybe this could be addressed by signs to ask visitors to be respectful and tell them what they should not do.
Other things like defacing or vandalizing (eg; scratching your name on the stone of Angkor Wat), or making porno movies on sacred sites - or throwing your rubbish on the ground - all westerners know that this is not acceptable behaviour. So they deserve to be punished for this because it is deliberately bad and not a question of a cultural misunderstanding.
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