Pedestrianizing Phnom Penh Riverside

total nutter · Post by **total nutter** » Fri Jan 10, 2025 5:12 pm

I love the way proposals are made and often roads are closed with no warning, and the public are just expected to know what the alternative route is.

I spent a night at Cambodiana over the Water Festival, and getting from the night market area where I used to stay to the hotel was impossible by vehicle. We gave up and walked. Yes, we knew SQ would be closed, but no alternatives were mentioned and we didn't know the closure would affect SQ all the way almost to Naga Casino area. No tuktuks allowed, nada. A tuktuk/tram/ bus lane might be a useful addition, free ride constantly going slowly N-S and back again.

Another instance of the pre-emptive vs. reactive cultures of thinking.

hanno · Post by **hanno** » Fri Jan 10, 2025 5:20 pm

total nutter wrote: ↑Fri Jan 10, 2025 5:12 pm I love the way proposals are made and often roads are closed with no warning, and the public are just expected to know what the alternative route is.

I spent a night at Cambodiana over the Water Festival, and getting from the night market area where I used to stay to the hotel was impossible by vehicle. We gave up and walked. Yes, we knew SQ would be closed, but no alternatives were mentioned and we didn't know the closure would affect SQ all the way almost to Naga Casino area.

Another instance of the pre-emptive vs. reactive cultures of thinking.

Apparently, the pedestrian area will eventually extend all the way to Preah Sihanouk and 19 Street. We still don't know how our guests will access the hotel.

orichá · Post by **orichá** » Sat Jan 11, 2025 3:38 pm

The only way to make the riverside into an attractive place is to dig an underground road tunnel after NagaWorld in the south, making a large and permanent pedestrian mall until just after the night market or as far up as the Japanese bridge in the north. The road is too busy with traffic all the time, so there is no other solution.

phuketrichard · Post by **phuketrichard** » Sat Jan 11, 2025 4:54 pm

might be a better idea to make it one way with one lane for parking instead of the sidewalk

ali baba · Post by **ali baba** » Sat Jan 11, 2025 6:29 pm

I'd like to pedestrianise the roads around central market/ psar thmei. If they built some multi-story car parks either side of it it would be easy to add many market stalls that would pay off the cost of the parking structure quickly. Then if bus route 1 took a small detour there would be 3 bus routes running directly past the market.

scott61 · Post by **scott61** » Sat Jan 11, 2025 9:55 pm

I'd like a tunnel from my apartment at 110/51 down to Oscar's Bar on Street 104.

orichá · Post by **orichá** » Sun Jan 12, 2025 4:23 pm

phuketrichard wrote: ↑Sat Jan 11, 2025 4:54 pm might be a better idea to make it one way with one lane for parking instead of the sidewalk

Well, that is a good idea. But it would only be useful for weekend traffic.

During the week, every car on the river road is commuting north or south of the old uptown center. Nobody turns off the road, they just speed through. So, a tunnel would make the riverside walking promenade large and quiet.

BTW, the plan to make pedestrian ways on the inside streets won't affect hotels and businesses much because I am sure the walks are only going to be open at night, and maybe weekends. Probably, the tuktuks can sneak in anytime.

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