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Re: US politics topics and CEO

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I would propose an opt-in forum for all geopolitical discussions.
Throw the whole lot into one bag. USA, China, UK/European countries, Canada, Ukraine and the rest.
Oh and maybe include climate change stuff in there too, maybe.

Anyway, someone posted something along the lines of ".... blah blah blah politics and nothing will change"

This is true for almost everything people discuss. The state of your favourite team, the weather, the traffic at rush hour.. the list goes on. People can discuss events and the current situation for anything whilst having absolutely no control over the thing being discussed.
There are some people who are genuinely interested in geopolitics but it is one of those subjects that can be hard to discuss objectively. Almost everyone has a subjective opinion and even those who try to stay objective on a matter sometimes find their own subconscious biases affect their reasoning. Much like the case of that guy in America who had a flawless track record of predicting US presidential races and he was a bus ride off in his prediction of a Harris landslide.

Anyway.

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Re: Trump considers economic force to aquire Canada, military force to aquire Panama and Greenland

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Random Dude wrote: Fri Jan 10, 2025 10:23 am ....
I actually agree with you on everything said, both in practice and in theory. That's basically why I call it a "compromise." The reason I don't think it's that big of a deal, is this would ONLY be because the forum software we use doesn't have a perfect solution, like completely "ignoring" a member you had no interest in interacting with, like all mainstream social media platforms that I know of, for better or worse.

Maybe even a better compromise would be to leave things exactly as-is and if someone REALLY wants to be active on here but also just can't fucking stand dicey hot topics like Trump, they can go opt-out. The way I am thinking it could be set up is if you could go to asub-forum section (like the Darknet News section) and instead of requesting access, you'd simply "join" and the moment you do, any topic that's in the new section would be invisible for you and only you, until you "left" the group. I've never seen it done like that on a forum, but seems it would work as described. You mentioning Israel/Palestine. That was a good example of a topic that always gets heated (just like it did on here recently), and it would have been great to have been able to just split it off to another sub-forum where all those who wanted to continue seeing it could, and those who didn't wouldn't. And again, I agree with you and others who say outright "don't open it if you don't want to read it," but it does seem that some might like to have that option for just the most triggering of topics, lol. In a way the whole thing like someone saying they don't like P*rnHub because it has so much gay porn on there and someone else pointing out to them that they don't actually have to watch it just because it's on there and should probably just watch what they like and ignore the rest, lol.
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Re: US politics topics and CEO

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Username Taken wrote: Fri Jan 10, 2025 4:35 am So, what's the solution here?
What if we were to ban discussion of US politics?
Discussion of US politics starts arguments and ill feeling among members. Deters others from joining the discussion, creates cliques and grudges. It doesn't change anything on the ground in the US. So, what's the point?

Hey, @General Mackevili, what if we were to put US political threads into a new hidden forum where people could opt in and fight it out, while the rest of us could just ignore the divisiveness?
I don't think banning politics is the answer. Rather we like it or not, majority of events coming from US is political. Also majority of the user base are from US or territories by US. Excluding the user base would be seen as discrimination against the majority.

As of right now there's heated discussion about Greenland and Canada. Unfortunately the government of US is pretty much aggressive because of Russia and China. I don't think discussion or arguments would deter anything as we facing the major powers which includes China, Russia and US that has greater effect to the world at large.

Personally it's a matter of time these 3 powers will fight in real life offline. By the way in early 2010's websites has tried to ban politics and it didn't last long. Eventually websites and social media allowed it. The sad truth is that damn near everything revolves around politics in western world and not limited to US.
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Re: Trump considers economic force to aquire Canada, military force to aquire Panama and Greenland

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Username Taken wrote: Fri Jan 10, 2025 12:08 pm
Clutch Cargo wrote: Fri Jan 10, 2025 10:53 am If a separate section is created with personal opt-in, would those topics and posts still appear on the top of 'New posts' and 'Recent posts'? I gather many members may sit on these or view these firstly before going into the sub-topics. So it's sort of in your face there.

Is there any merit in creating new subtopics along the lines of:

New posts- Cambodia
New posts- Other

Recent posts- Cambodia
Recent posts- Other

NB Cambodia on the top and possible no need then to create a separate section with separate opt-in?
It would be the same as when someone joins the Darknet. New posts would show mixed in with everything else for you but those who aren't members of the Darknet don't see those threads.
Thinking more about it, I don't think a Darknet style solution is the answer for non-Cambodian/US topics. Coz whether you have opted in or not, those topics will still show mixed in with new posts and recent topics and as has been the case lately, they will show up on top. That falsely implies the forum is more about topics other than Cambodia. With a Darknet solution whether you can readily get in to view the topic or not, the topic heading still sits there at the head of the queue visa vie Cambodian ones.

I think if the objective is to redress the situation where CEO is seemingly becoming a more US or other centric one, then, I believe we need to put Cambodian topics ahead of all the others whether or not there is more discussion in the former. Hence my suggestion above. No opt in or out. No hiding it in Darknet. Just put the Cambodian topics first, other topics second imo.
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Re: US politics topics and CEO

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so what's the solution
OP posts a question - asking for a solution without mentioning a problem.

That's a problem.

USA politics dominates discussions all over the world and at times, much more than others. And these are the times.

I really enjoy reading the political discussions on an international expats forum where you can get the vibe of so many people of diverse nationalities.

I think most complainers on here love to hate stuff - just because. But if it bothers them enough - they dont have to be here at all. And you would lose a lot less people if you do nothing, than if you over control for everything because then it will just be a watered down highly controlled lame milque·toast experience.
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Re: US politics topics and CEO

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The only thing worse than discussions about politics is a meta-discussion about the discussion of political topics.

I would say, as someone who never reads nor adds to such threads, that there's no need to hide them. Those who aren't interested will naturally just say "no."
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Re: Trump considers economic force to aquire Canada, military force to aquire Panama and Greenland

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Clutch Cargo wrote: Fri Jan 10, 2025 5:51 pm
Username Taken wrote: Fri Jan 10, 2025 12:08 pm
Clutch Cargo wrote: Fri Jan 10, 2025 10:53 am If a separate section is created with personal opt-in, would those topics and posts still appear on the top of 'New posts' and 'Recent posts'? I gather many members may sit on these or view these firstly before going into the sub-topics. So it's sort of in your face there.

Is there any merit in creating new subtopics along the lines of:

New posts- Cambodia
New posts- Other

Recent posts- Cambodia
Recent posts- Other

NB Cambodia on the top and possible no need then to create a separate section with separate opt-in?
It would be the same as when someone joins the Darknet. New posts would show mixed in with everything else for you but those who aren't members of the Darknet don't see those threads.
Thinking more about it, I don't think a Darknet style solution is the answer for non-Cambodian/US topics. Coz whether you have opted in or not, those topics will still show mixed in with new posts and recent topics and as has been the case lately, they will show up on top. That falsely implies the forum is more about topics other than Cambodia. With a Darknet solution whether you can readily get in to view the topic or not, the topic heading still sits there at the head of the queue visa vie Cambodian ones.

I think if the objective is to redress the situation where CEO is seemingly becoming a more US or other centric one, then, I believe we need to put Cambodian topics ahead of all the others whether or not there is more discussion in the former. Hence my suggestion above. No opt in or out. No hiding it in Darknet. Just put the Cambodian topics first, other topics second imo.
when i open CEO:
it opens at "New Posts"

and its New posts by date.... latest is top
simple enough to see what section the thread is in
currently ( for me) 12 new Posts> Not 1 is "rest of world" #13 is

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I’m not interested in it, but it doesn’t bother me eityer if folks want to hammer it out. As an adult you can choose to just ignore surely…
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Re: US politics topics and CEO

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David Gordon wrote: Fri Jan 10, 2025 7:00 pm
so what's the solution
OP posts a question - asking for a solution without mentioning a problem.

That's a problem.

USA politics dominates discussions all over the world and at times, much more than others. And these are the times.

I really enjoy reading the political discussions on an international expats forum where you can get the vibe of so many people of diverse nationalities.

I think most complainers on here love to hate stuff - just because. But if it bothers them enough - they dont have to be here at all. And you would lose a lot less people if you do nothing, than if you over control for everything because then it will just be a watered down highly controlled lame milque·toast experience.
David, you know very well what the problem was.
[Readers please note that the OP in this thread was originally part of the thread mentioned below as "My original post".]

My original post was with regards a personal attack against a member by another member whose main interest appears to be nothing but international politics. The trolling member joined the forum only 3 months ago and now has an impressive posting history on political threads.

The problem is that over the years we get new members who have zero affiliation with Cambodia, have never been to Cambodia, and probably couldn't find Cambodia on a world map, join CEO just to troll on political threads. Take the time to pull up some of those threads from yesteryear and you will see the same names posting, but no history of posts related to Cambodia.

THAT WAS THE PROBLEM I WAS REFERRING TO.

When I posted the second post, which you have partly quoted, the post was partly tongue-in-cheek to make the point that if discussion of US politics was to be banned or hidden, then the potential new members who are looking for new political trolling grounds might be detered.
I was surprised by the comments of support in the Karma/Thumbs up. There was only one negative comment.

What disappointed me most in all of this was the way in which the focus of my original post was totally lost in favor of a discussion about potential forum censorship. In the end, we still have a member of 10 year standing being trolled by a new member with slurs like 'homosexual pedophile'.
Or is name calling and personal attacks ok now?
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Re: US politics topics and CEO

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Username Taken wrote: Sat Jan 11, 2025 4:51 am
David Gordon wrote: Fri Jan 10, 2025 7:00 pm
so what's the solution
OP posts a question - asking for a solution without mentioning a problem.

That's a problem.

USA politics dominates discussions all over the world and at times, much more than others. And these are the times.

I really enjoy reading the political discussions on an international expats forum where you can get the vibe of so many people of diverse nationalities.

I think most complainers on here love to hate stuff - just because. But if it bothers them enough - they dont have to be here at all. And you would lose a lot less people if you do nothing, than if you over control for everything because then it will just be a watered down highly controlled lame milque·toast experience.
David, you know very well what the problem was.
[Readers please note that the OP in this thread was originally part of the thread mentioned below as "My original post".]

My original post was with regards a personal attack against a member by another member whose main interest appears to be nothing but international politics. The trolling member joined the forum only 3 months ago and now has an impressive posting history on political threads.

The problem is that over the years we get new members who have zero affiliation with Cambodia, have never been to Cambodia, and probably couldn't find Cambodia on a world map, join CEO just to troll on political threads. Take the time to pull up some of those threads from yesteryear and you will see the same names posting, but no history of posts related to Cambodia.

THAT WAS THE PROBLEM I WAS REFERRING TO.

When I posted the second post, which you have partly quoted, the post was partly tongue-in-cheek to make the point that if discussion of US politics was to be banned or hidden, then the potential new members who are looking for new political trolling grounds might be detered.
I was surprised by the comments of support in the Karma/Thumbs up. There was only one negative comment.

What disappointed me most in all of this was the way in which the focus of my original post was totally lost in favor of a discussion about potential forum censorship. In the end, we still have a member of 10 year standing being trolled by a new member with slurs like 'homosexual pedophile'.
Or is name calling and personal attacks ok now?
The solution is to ban the obvious trolls.
Stay classy na
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