Farewell to an Era: Phnom Penh International Airport Set to Shut Down to Make Way for New Airport Next Year

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armchairlawyer wrote: Mon May 13, 2024 9:38 pm Flew out of PNH yesterday. No lines at check in or immigration or security. 5% of the chairs taken in the enormous lounge. Easy boarding. No queueing for take off.

Doesn’t immediately strike you as an airport desperately needing replacement.
Agree. I flew out on May 1st and was pretty seamless. I had to pay 5 or 6 day overstay and they handled it pretty well. I assumed would be a hassle but went smoothly.
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armchairlawyer wrote: Mon May 13, 2024 9:38 pmDoesn’t immediately strike you as an airport desperately needing replacement.
The terminal isn't the bottleneck
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ali baba wrote: Tue May 14, 2024 2:40 pm
armchairlawyer wrote: Mon May 13, 2024 9:38 pmDoesn’t immediately strike you as an airport desperately needing replacement.
The terminal isn't the bottleneck
What do you think is the bottleneck, if there is one? I could not spot any problems of any kind.
A lot of us just feel it’s a damn shame to be losing such a wonderful airport.
But we do understand it will need replacing at some point- just not for a long while yet.
And we do understand that the picture in 2019 did call for more urgent action than turned out to be the case. With the benefit of hindsight no doubt the money would have been put to more productive use for a few years. It being the case that capital investment which is immediately productive is beneficial to a developing economy.
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I understand the need to anticipate growth, but if completion of the new airport were to be delayed by a few years and if they used that time for adding a rail link to Central Phnom Penh, I for one wouldn't complain at all...
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armchairlawyer wrote: Tue May 14, 2024 3:03 pm
ali baba wrote: Tue May 14, 2024 2:40 pm
armchairlawyer wrote: Mon May 13, 2024 9:38 pmDoesn’t immediately strike you as an airport desperately needing replacement.
The terminal isn't the bottleneck
What do you think is the bottleneck, if there is one? I could not spot any problems of any kind.
A lot of us just feel it’s a damn shame to be losing such a wonderful airport.
But we do understand it will need replacing at some point- just not for a long while yet.
And we do understand that the picture in 2019 did call for more urgent action than turned out to be the case. With the benefit of hindsight no doubt the money would have been put to more productive use for a few years. It being the case that capital investment which is immediately productive is beneficial to a developing economy.
The bottleneck is that you can't build a taxiway to the end of the runway heading Northeast. If the new airport had an effective, cheap mass transit connection ready for its opening it would be great, but this will make it two out-of-city airports without proper transport options. That's not good.
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Doc67 wrote: Mon May 13, 2024 3:01 am
Jack.R. wrote: Wed May 08, 2024 9:54 pm About the old airport and the lands around it are going to be like a new city center as they did on the old lake.

Lots of top people are waiting for it to be closed to build because they can't build skyscrapers till it close due to height restrictions around the airport.

They are going to scoop up properties around the area cheap without the airport traffic and later pump up the area value with massive projects to make high profits.

Smart people will buy up properties around there in the coming year while the prices are still cheap and real estate market is down while interest rates are high
AFAIK, the airport isn't closing when the commercial traffic moves to the new airport. It will still be used by the RCAF, private jets and visiting VIP's and governmental aircraft.

Therefore there will will still need to be low level buildings on both approach paths.
For a short while.
Speaking with some top government guys they are already preparing to split the airport land into construction lots.

Which makes sense as that land is worth a fortune now.
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Jack.R. wrote: Tue May 21, 2024 6:55 pm
Doc67 wrote: Mon May 13, 2024 3:01 am
Jack.R. wrote: Wed May 08, 2024 9:54 pm About the old airport and the lands around it are going to be like a new city center as they did on the old lake.

Lots of top people are waiting for it to be closed to build because they can't build skyscrapers till it close due to height restrictions around the airport.

They are going to scoop up properties around the area cheap without the airport traffic and later pump up the area value with massive projects to make high profits.

Smart people will buy up properties around there in the coming year while the prices are still cheap and real estate market is down while interest rates are high
AFAIK, the airport isn't closing when the commercial traffic moves to the new airport. It will still be used by the RCAF, private jets and visiting VIP's and governmental aircraft.

Therefore there will will still need to be low level buildings on both approach paths.
For a short while.
Speaking with some top government guys they are already preparing to split the airport land into construction lots.

Which makes sense as that land is worth a fortune now.
Yes, it was already in the news when they announced that Cambodia Airports will operate the new airport. Private jets and government aircrafts will also move to the new airport at the same time as commercial flights, and the old airport will be closed shortly after that.

On another topic, they have started planning public city bus routes to the new airport as well. These routes are mainly intended for airport employees, but from what I heard, they should also stop at or near the terminal. One of the current routes, possibly the Takhmau Line 2, will continue all the way to the airport, and there will be one completely new line. So there's most likely going to be very cheap option to get from TIA to city.
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Flew into Pochentong last week, 12 minutes from leaving the plane to walking out of the terminal building. That's pretty much standard for me, no way it won't take much longer at the new airport. The only novelty was that I finally saw someone getting pulled at customs for a bag inspection. That guy had a trolley load worth of suitcases, I would have pulled him too.

Today I saw Siem Reap's "airport highway", what a mess how it connects to tired old roads long before entering the city. Never used that new SAI airport - and no thanks.
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If the new airport offers direct flights to London the journey will be 4 hours faster without the need to change in Bangkok.
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ali baba wrote: Wed May 22, 2024 5:13 am If the new airport offers direct flights to London the journey will be 4 hours faster without the need to change in Bangkok.
Airports don't offer flights, airlines do. No chance of any direct flights to London I'm afraid
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