e-Arrival Card app for foreigners coming to Cambodia to be launched in 2024

Ot Mean Loi · Post by **Ot Mean Loi** » Mon Dec 18, 2023 4:12 pm

There are low end/low value Smart Phones and then there are Smart Smart Phones.

This is not the point.

The point being, does or does not, this simplify entry in to Cambodia for the majority of Travelers/Visitors or not?

I suspect not.

OML

khmerhamster · Post by **khmerhamster** » Mon Dec 18, 2023 4:31 pm

Ot Mean Loi wrote: ↑Mon Dec 18, 2023 4:12 pm There are low end/low value Smart Phones and then there are Smart Smart Phones.

This is not the point.

The point being, does or does not, this simplify entry in to Cambodia for the majority of Travelers/Visitors or not?

I suspect not.

OML

As I understand it,
It’s not additional requirement. It replaces the fiddly paper forms required to be completed. I hate those forms.
With a smart phone, you’ll be able to copy/paste and autocomplete certain sections.

I imagine it will simplify things if the app works as designed. Dunno why people are getting their knickers all twisted.

hanno · Post by **hanno** » Mon Dec 18, 2023 4:38 pm

khmerhamster wrote: ↑Mon Dec 18, 2023 4:31 pm
Ot Mean Loi wrote: ↑Mon Dec 18, 2023 4:12 pm There are low end/low value Smart Phones and then there are Smart Smart Phones.

This is not the point.

The point being, does or does not, this simplify entry in to Cambodia for the majority of Travelers/Visitors or not?

I suspect not.

OML
As I understand it,
It’s not additional requirement. It replaces the fiddly paper forms required to be completed. I hate those forms.
With a smart phone, you’ll be able to copy/paste and autocomplete certain sections.

I imagine it will simplify things if the app works as designed. Dunno why people are getting their knickers all twisted.

Totally agree. I used to fly between Vietnam and Cambodia a lot, and the forms were a pain in the butt. I'd forget my pen, the crew would run out of forms, etc. App works fine in other countries, it'll work here. Eventually.

Kammekor · Post by **Kammekor** » Mon Dec 18, 2023 4:49 pm

khmerhamster wrote: ↑Mon Dec 18, 2023 4:31 pm

I imagine it will simplify things if the app works as designed. Dunno why people are getting their knickers all twisted.

Because single purpose apps are a pain in the butt. A simple web portal would suffice without the need to install an app.

Imagine each and everyone needing your information requiring you to use their app instead of a website....

khmerhamster · Post by **khmerhamster** » Mon Dec 18, 2023 4:51 pm

Kammekor wrote: ↑Mon Dec 18, 2023 4:49 pm
khmerhamster wrote: ↑Mon Dec 18, 2023 4:31 pm

I imagine it will simplify things if the app works as designed. Dunno why people are getting their knickers all twisted.
Because single purpose apps are a pain in the butt. A simple web portal would suffice without the need to install an app.

Imagine each and everyone needing your information requiring you to use their app instead of a website....

Yeah I get that. But a single purpose app is still preferable to paper forms for me.
But I’d expect that it’s likely they’ll have a web portal too.

cabron · Post by **cabron** » Mon Dec 18, 2023 4:53 pm

Ot Mean Loi wrote: ↑Mon Dec 18, 2023 3:40 pm Having today spent some time reading all of the limited information available on the quoted site:

http://www.arrival.gov.kh

I suspect that the Cambodian Government/Ministry of Tourism has got this wrong for a number of reasons.

I further suspect that the Cambodian Government/Ministry of Tourism has increased the burden on Incoming Tourists and NOT decreased or simplified entry to Cambodia in any meaningful way.

Thailand and Singapore have gone completely paperless and do not require any online action by arriving tourists from countries with a good compliance with visa conditions and a very low percentage of Visa Overstayers.

Cambodia, on the other hand is proposing to burden the prospective visitor with a heavy online pre-entry/arrival uploading of information and then, only no earlier than seven (7) days prior to arrival.

This could be acceptable for a visitor to Cambodia only coming to Cambodia from their country/place of ordinary domicile/residence and then returning to that location.

But what of a traveler visiting several countries in the region and without the means to scan and upload all of the information that is requires while travelling? Or what about the visitor that takes a side trip from Cambodia to a neighboring country and then returns to Cambodia?

As I currently understand this from the limited information available, is quite possible that this proposed system, as currently proposed, may backfire on Cambodia, because of its heavy reliance on Information Communications Technology, (ICT) not possessed or accessible to many potential tourists, including inter alia, many on multi-country visits, the elderly silver Columbus and well-off retirees and all those who travel without PDAs, Laptops, scanning devices for passports etc. or advanced smart phones etc.

Cambodia is already an increasingly expensive country to visit for those of us that do not come from United States Dollar Countries. This may yet prove to be another straw on the "Camels Back".

Cambodia would be wise to move slowly and cautiously with this proposal and to maintain a dual Paper Based + Online System of Entry if it cannot go directly to the Thai System or similar.

And, nowhere in the information provided to date does it make any mention of a fee to enter Cambodia for each of the Visa Categories listed. Are these now to be abolished? Or do they remain? Or are they to be increased?

There are probably a number of other issues waiting in the wings once the details become clearer on 01 January 2024.

I shall test this system on 24 January 2024.

OML

Why make it simple if it can be complicated.

Kammekor · Post by **Kammekor** » Mon Dec 18, 2023 4:59 pm

khmerhamster wrote: ↑Mon Dec 18, 2023 4:51 pm
Kammekor wrote: ↑Mon Dec 18, 2023 4:49 pm
khmerhamster wrote: ↑Mon Dec 18, 2023 4:31 pm

I imagine it will simplify things if the app works as designed. Dunno why people are getting their knickers all twisted.
Because single purpose apps are a pain in the butt. A simple web portal would suffice without the need to install an app.

Imagine each and everyone needing your information requiring you to use their app instead of a website....
Yeah I get that. But a single purpose app is still preferable to paper forms for me.
But I’d expect that it’s likely they’ll have a web portal too.

I have been using the FPCS app from the DoI for a few years now. Never abused anything, never did anything wrong, but their system locked me out of my (first) account, no way to recover. Using a second account now. I would chose a paper in my passport over an app anytime. Always carry a pen in my backpack when I go cross border.

phuketrichard · Post by **phuketrichard** » Mon Dec 18, 2023 5:33 pm

tourists know they can get a voa for Cambodia
so they know, just get on the flight, arrive, buy ur visa, stamp in

"Oh what do u mean i had to go to add THEIR app to my phone an upload all my info BEFORE i arrived??"

and if they app wont load?
i have a 5 year old Asus Zenfone, love it and until it dies, dont want to replace it, many newer apps will not load for me, ( fuji restaurant, Tops, Villa, Bangkok bank and a few crypto currency apps)

so , what will happen?
Bet ya there will be forms available

khmerhamster · Post by **khmerhamster** » Mon Dec 18, 2023 5:40 pm

phuketrichard wrote: ↑Mon Dec 18, 2023 5:33 pm tourists know they can get a voa for Cambodia
so they know, just get on the flight, arrive, buy ur visa, stamp in

"Oh what do u mean i had to go to add THEIR app to my phone an upload all my info BEFORE i arrived??"

and if they app wont load?
i have a 5 year old Asus Zenfone, love it and until it dies, dont want to replace it, many newer apps will not load for me, ( fuji restaurant, Tops, Villa, Bangkok bank and a few crypto currency apps)

so , what will happen?
Bet ya there will be forms available

Entry requirements were pretty hectic during covid. They changed frequently but largely people who were travelling worked it out.
They’ll also work this out - and it’ll be much simpler than during covid.

Tourists know they can get voa, mostly because they’ve read up on it. Now when they read up they’ll get different advice. It’s not rocket science. Quit being such a drama queen.

phuketrichard · Post by **phuketrichard** » Mon Dec 18, 2023 6:02 pm

how many "tourists" arrived during Covid???

Not being a drama queen, but when things aren't broken, dont try and fix them

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