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This map was issued by National Geographic in 1947, one year before Nakba, there was no such thing called “Israel”.
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Hamas day care center with hostages


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phuketrichard wrote: Sat Oct 14, 2023 7:49 am Image

This map was issued by National Geographic in 1947, one year before Nakba, there was no such thing called “Israel”.
That's a blurry map of the proposed division of British Mandatory Palestine, you can read the description in the top right. Israel was founded in 1948.

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Here's another map:

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Here's another map:

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many thais work on the orchards in western Israel.

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the conflict is spreading ;-(

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interesting:
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3 Questions:
1/How to decide a winner in this contest of "Man's Inhumanity to Man" ? Is it the most brutal fighting team, or the best news coverage of massacred women and children ???
2/ Regardless of who is responsible for the outbreak of war, who will be held accountable for the civilian massacres ? Civilians are the principle targets for both sides. Does the Geneva convention still mean anything ?
3/[The most personal question IMO] Is there an expiry date on this? Will it be "old news" by next week/next month ? What does that say about "us", the ghouls watching from the sidelines ?
Updated at 18.04 CEST
3h ago17.23 CEST
Gaza civilians afraid to leave home after bombing 'safe routes'

A convoy of vehicles carrying fleeing civilians from Gaza to the southern half of the strip, which was traveling on a road marked as a “safe route”, has been struck by a deadly airstrike, according to analysis.

The Guardian’s Bethan McKernan and Sufian Taha report:

The Friday afternoon bombing in Gaza City, which killed a reported 70 people including children and which Hamas blamed on Israel, occurred on Salah-al-Din Road, a main thoroughfare in the overcrowded enclave, home to a trapped population of 2.3 million people.

Forensic Architecture, a London-based research agency, and its partner investigations unit at the Palestinian human rights organisation al-Haq, used aerial photos and social media posts to geolocate the site of the strike, sharing its findings with the Guardian. The BBC’s Verify unit also came to the same conclusion.

Video and pictures of the aftermath of the attack show 12 dead bodies, most of whom are women and children as young as about two years old, and several damaged vehicles.

The Palestinian health ministry said that 70 people were killed on the road, which was filled with traffic as Palestinians tried to adhere to Israeli orders given early on Friday to evacuate the northern half of Gaza.

Shadows and the position of the sun suggest the attack on the civilian convoy occurred at about 5.30pm. At 6.03pm, in social media posts, the IDF identified the exact same road in an infographic as the safe route to follow the Israeli evacuation directive for about half of the strip’s population to travel south of the Gaza River, which is just south of Gaza City.
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Anchor Moy wrote: Sun Oct 15, 2023 2:10 am 3 Questions:
1/How to decide a winner in this contest of "Man's Inhumanity to Man" ? Is it the most brutal fighting team, or the best news coverage of massacred women and children ???
2/ Regardless of who is responsible for the outbreak of war, who will be held accountable for the civilian massacres ? Civilians are the principle targets for both sides. Does the Geneva convention still mean anything ?
3/[The most personal question IMO] Is there an expiry date on this? Will it be "old news" by next week/next month ? What does that say about "us", the ghouls watching from the sidelines ?
Updated at 18.04 CEST
3h ago17.23 CEST
Gaza civilians afraid to leave home after bombing 'safe routes'

A convoy of vehicles carrying fleeing civilians from Gaza to the southern half of the strip, which was traveling on a road marked as a “safe route”, has been struck by a deadly airstrike, according to analysis.

The Guardian’s Bethan McKernan and Sufian Taha report:

The Friday afternoon bombing in Gaza City, which killed a reported 70 people including children and which Hamas blamed on Israel, occurred on Salah-al-Din Road, a main thoroughfare in the overcrowded enclave, home to a trapped population of 2.3 million people.

Forensic Architecture, a London-based research agency, and its partner investigations unit at the Palestinian human rights organisation al-Haq, used aerial photos and social media posts to geolocate the site of the strike, sharing its findings with the Guardian. The BBC’s Verify unit also came to the same conclusion.

Video and pictures of the aftermath of the attack show 12 dead bodies, most of whom are women and children as young as about two years old, and several damaged vehicles.

The Palestinian health ministry said that 70 people were killed on the road, which was filled with traffic as Palestinians tried to adhere to Israeli orders given early on Friday to evacuate the northern half of Gaza.

Shadows and the position of the sun suggest the attack on the civilian convoy occurred at about 5.30pm. At 6.03pm, in social media posts, the IDF identified the exact same road in an infographic as the safe route to follow the Israeli evacuation directive for about half of the strip’s population to travel south of the Gaza River, which is just south of Gaza City.
I've been seeing comments online claiming the videos are fake - well, not fake but that it was a (presumably Hamas) IED rather than an Israeli airstrike that caused it.

I have no idea what's true, neither would surprise me and I feel like both sides are equally likely to be behind it, and equally likely to blame the other side for it, but whoever is responsible is just scum IMO.
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