AirAsia Plans to Launch Low-Cost Airline in Cambodia

Arget · Post by **Arget** » Thu Oct 12, 2023 5:06 pm

Some airlines will not be have international flights to Siem Reeb, Sihanoukville or other "international "airports in Cambodia. If the Pochentong International Airport is to be used as a domestic airport, as well as cargo and defence, then international visitors to Cambodia will have a major issue if they wish to transfer to travel domestically.

The issue will be travel from the new airport in Kandal to Pochentong. THere is no direct transport route between these two places and with the influx of vehicular transport into Phnom Penh from new airport that will clog up all areas to grid lock then it may take hours to transit for domestic flights.

In most instances infrastructure is a major concern when new projects such as new airports are tabled and construction is begun in a timely manner to coincide with project completion. Alas here that is not the case.

The mafia that will assume control of the transport into Phnom Penh and too and from the domestic airport will be a negative for tourism.

Plan ahead. Logical thinking, etc tec doesn't happen.

Bluenose · Post by **Bluenose** » Thu Oct 12, 2023 7:24 pm

Arget wrote: ↑Thu Oct 12, 2023 5:06 pm Some airlines will not be have international flights to Siem Reeb, Sihanoukville or other "international "airports in Cambodia. If the Pochentong International Airport is to be used as a domestic airport, as well as cargo and defence, then international visitors to Cambodia will have a major issue if they wish to transfer to travel domestically.

The issue will be travel from the new airport in Kandal to Pochentong. THere is no direct transport route between these two places and with the influx of vehicular transport into Phnom Penh from new airport that will clog up all areas to grid lock then it may take hours to transit for domestic flights.

In most instances infrastructure is a major concern when new projects such as new airports are tabled and construction is begun in a timely manner to coincide with project completion. Alas here that is not the case.

The mafia that will assume control of the transport into Phnom Penh and too and from the domestic airport will be a negative for tourism.

Plan ahead. Logical thinking, etc tec doesn't happen.

Their is very little reason to fly to Phnom Penh and then transfer to a domestic flight. Many airlines to PNH have direct flights or a codeshare to Siem Reap from BKK and for Sihanoukville it's quicker to go by road than transfer to a domestic flight

Kammekor · Post by **Kammekor** » Thu Oct 12, 2023 7:30 pm

Bluenose wrote: ↑Thu Oct 12, 2023 7:24 pm
Arget wrote: ↑Thu Oct 12, 2023 5:06 pm Some airlines will not be have international flights to Siem Reeb, Sihanoukville or other "international "airports in Cambodia. If the Pochentong International Airport is to be used as a domestic airport, as well as cargo and defence, then international visitors to Cambodia will have a major issue if they wish to transfer to travel domestically.

The issue will be travel from the new airport in Kandal to Pochentong. THere is no direct transport route between these two places and with the influx of vehicular transport into Phnom Penh from new airport that will clog up all areas to grid lock then it may take hours to transit for domestic flights.

In most instances infrastructure is a major concern when new projects such as new airports are tabled and construction is begun in a timely manner to coincide with project completion. Alas here that is not the case.

The mafia that will assume control of the transport into Phnom Penh and too and from the domestic airport will be a negative for tourism.

Plan ahead. Logical thinking, etc tec doesn't happen.
Their is very little reason to fly to Phnom Penh and then transfer to a domestic flight. Many airlines to PNH have direct flights or a codeshare to Siem Reap from BKK and for Sihanoukville it's quicker to go by road than transfer to a domestic flight

Think ahead. New airports are being planned in Kratie, Ratanakiri, Mondulkiri... I don't see any of those attracting international flights. Cambodia is aiming for a domestic network, from another airport than the main one. That would require some planning, wouldn't it?

armchairlawyer · Post by **armchairlawyer** » Thu Oct 12, 2023 7:50 pm

Once Cambodia has a good road network, the distances are such that there will be no real need for any domestic commercial flights. Travel times from PP are already so quick by road to SHV and Battambang. New roads being built to Koh Kong and Bavet. SR is not a bad road and anyway the new airport location has affected demand for that route. Maybe Rattanakiri but where's the demand for that? Sorry Kammekor.

Air Asia will be very keen to get Cambodians flying if their new venture is to succeed. Due to the low potential for domestic flying routes, that will require a big reduction in passport fees - but this issue has gone very quiet.

Newinkow · Post by **Newinkow** » Thu Oct 12, 2023 7:57 pm

Kammekor wrote: ↑Thu Oct 12, 2023 7:30 pm
Bluenose wrote: ↑Thu Oct 12, 2023 7:24 pm
Arget wrote: ↑Thu Oct 12, 2023 5:06 pm Some airlines will not be have international flights to Siem Reeb, Sihanoukville or other "international "airports in Cambodia. If the Pochentong International Airport is to be used as a domestic airport, as well as cargo and defence, then international visitors to Cambodia will have a major issue if they wish to transfer to travel domestically.

The issue will be travel from the new airport in Kandal to Pochentong. THere is no direct transport route between these two places and with the influx of vehicular transport into Phnom Penh from new airport that will clog up all areas to grid lock then it may take hours to transit for domestic flights.

In most instances infrastructure is a major concern when new projects such as new airports are tabled and construction is begun in a timely manner to coincide with project completion. Alas here that is not the case.

The mafia that will assume control of the transport into Phnom Penh and too and from the domestic airport will be a negative for tourism.

Plan ahead. Logical thinking, etc tec doesn't happen.
Their is very little reason to fly to Phnom Penh and then transfer to a domestic flight. Many airlines to PNH have direct flights or a codeshare to Siem Reap from BKK and for Sihanoukville it's quicker to go by road than transfer to a domestic flight
Think ahead. New airports are being planned in Kratie, Ratanakiri, Mondulkiri... I don't see any of those attracting international flights. Cambodia is aiming for a domestic network, from another airport than the main one. That would require some planning, wouldn't it?

A little of topic.

I don't understand why KoW are spending so much money for new domestic airports. The land size and population of KoW is not that large. PP is kind of centrally located in the country. Soon it will have a world class international airport.

Wouldn't money be better spent if they improve the highway system 8n KoW. Like the highway that was built from PP to SHV. Personally I would think that would benefit the nation as a whole. A good percentage of the local population cannot afford air travel. A good highway system servicing all four corners of KoW would increase the follow of people and goods also.

Newinkow · Post by **Newinkow** » Thu Oct 12, 2023 8:00 pm

armchairlawyer wrote: ↑Thu Oct 12, 2023 7:50 pm Once Cambodia has a good road network, the distances are such that there will be no real need for any domestic commercial flights. Travel times from PP are already so quick by road to SHV and Battambang. New roads being built to Koh Kong and Bavet. SR is not a bad road and anyway the new airport location has affected demand for that route. Maybe Rattanakiri but where's the demand for that? Sorry Kammekor.

Air Asia will be very keen to get Cambodians flying if their new venture is to succeed. Due to the low potential for domestic flying routes, that will require a big reduction in passport fees - but this issue has gone very quiet.

Soory didn't see your post before I posted.

You phased it better the me.

Kammekor · Post by **Kammekor** » Thu Oct 12, 2023 8:17 pm

armchairlawyer wrote: ↑Thu Oct 12, 2023 7:50 pm Once Cambodia has a good road network, the distances are such that there will be no real need for any domestic commercial flights. Travel times from PP are already so quick by road to SHV and Battambang. New roads being built to Koh Kong and Bavet. SR is not a bad road and anyway the new airport location has affected demand for that route. Maybe Rattanakiri but where's the demand for that? Sorry Kammekor.

Air Asia will be very keen to get Cambodians flying if their new venture is to succeed. Due to the low potential for domestic flying routes, that will require a big reduction in passport fees - but this issue has gone very quiet.

No need for a 'sorry', but Phnom Penh to Ratanakiri is 580 km's. Phnom Penh to Stueng Treng is 480 km's. Loads of countries in the region have both good roads, good rails & domestic flights for those distances.

Cambodia, on the other hand, currently offer upgraded ox-carts.

I know I am exaggerating a bit. But it's stuff like this keeping tourists away. Cambodia has a lot to offer, but it's pretty spaced out (coast to highlands is about 800 km's), coast to temples about 600 km's) and compared to neighbouring countries travelling takes a lot of time and is pretty inconvenient.

The Royal Government of Cambodia has chosen to beat this with a domestic network, not me. If that's their choice, they should back it up with connections between Pochentong & New Somdach airport.
Or close Pochentong.

phuketrichard · Post by **phuketrichard** » Thu Oct 12, 2023 8:19 pm

armchairlawyer wrote: ↑Thu Oct 12, 2023 7:50 pm Once Cambodia has a good road network, the distances are such that there will be no real need for any domestic commercial flights. Travel times from PP are already so quick by road to SHV and Battambang. New roads being built to Koh Kong and Bavet. SR is not a bad road and anyway the new airport location has affected demand for that route. Maybe Rattanakiri but where's the demand for that? Sorry Kammekor.

Air Asia will be very keen to get Cambodians flying if their new venture is to succeed. Due to the low potential for domestic flying routes, that will require a big reduction in passport fees - but this issue has gone very quiet.

why? Cambodian Passport is $100, ( 3 weeks) US passport $130, ( takes 4-7 weeks overseas, 2-3 months in the states) Ozzie pp $208, British PP £94.00 ( $115)
ONLY the THai passport is a great deal ( 1,000 baht, 2-4 days)

So how will a reduced PP cost make a dam bit of difference for Khmers travelling?

I agree thou that cant see them building airports all over Cambodia, makes zero sense
Money better spent building better roads so can transport goods, as well as people

Alex · Post by **Alex** » Thu Oct 12, 2023 8:25 pm

I can only agree with some others, once an expressway of the standard set by E4 to Sihanoukville becomes the norm between Cambodia's biggest cities, I don't see any need for domestic flights either.

Some routes might then still make sense distance-wise (none involving Phnom Penh however), but there won't be enough demand.

Kammekor · Post by **Kammekor** » Thu Oct 12, 2023 8:25 pm

phuketrichard wrote: ↑Thu Oct 12, 2023 8:19 pm
armchairlawyer wrote: ↑Thu Oct 12, 2023 7:50 pm Once Cambodia has a good road network, the distances are such that there will be no real need for any domestic commercial flights. Travel times from PP are already so quick by road to SHV and Battambang. New roads being built to Koh Kong and Bavet. SR is not a bad road and anyway the new airport location has affected demand for that route. Maybe Rattanakiri but where's the demand for that? Sorry Kammekor.

Air Asia will be very keen to get Cambodians flying if their new venture is to succeed. Due to the low potential for domestic flying routes, that will require a big reduction in passport fees - but this issue has gone very quiet.
why? Cambodian Passport is $100, ( 3 weeks) US passport $130, ( takes 4-7 weeks overseas, 2-3 months in the states) Ozzie pp $325, British PP £94.00 ( $115)
ONLY the THai passport is a great deal ( 1,000 baht, 2-4 days)

Get real. Cambodian passports are a joke. Not only the price (starting at 100$ which is more than most countries charge), but also the fact it requires a trip to the capital to request it, and another one to collect it.
Obtaining a passport is major hurdle for the average Cambodian.

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