Stop trying to have the perfect vacation
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Re: Stop trying to have the perfect vacation
Ignoring the current state of the world, it wouldn't surprise me if in 20 years I'll be drinking dollar beers on a beach in Afghanistan.Freightdog wrote: ↑Thu Jul 27, 2023 8:03 pmI think it’s potentially worse. With a little romantic idealism, and far too much (biased, subjective, ultimately misleading) information, I imagine most people finding that things aren’t what they’d hoped.sigmoid wrote: ↑Thu Jul 27, 2023 7:46 pm was a surprise once you arrived. I think that's what's lost now when people have too much information and plan everything in advance. I still like to like to have the minimum amount of info about where I'm going, just the name of the place and a couple of good hotel recommendations. Everything else falls into place.
Proof, of sorts- read an UK .gov foreign office travel alert on the risks of a destination, then go there, anyway. It’s often built up to be much more than it really is. Dumbed down to the lowest common traveller, maybe.
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I all the time that I lived there I never came across a beachDeparRudeAnts wrote: ↑Sun Jul 30, 2023 7:59 amIgnoring the current state of the world, it wouldn't surprise me if in 20 years I'll be drinking dollar beers on a beach in Afghanistan.Freightdog wrote: ↑Thu Jul 27, 2023 8:03 pmI think it’s potentially worse. With a little romantic idealism, and far too much (biased, subjective, ultimately misleading) information, I imagine most people finding that things aren’t what they’d hoped.sigmoid wrote: ↑Thu Jul 27, 2023 7:46 pm was a surprise once you arrived. I think that's what's lost now when people have too much information and plan everything in advance. I still like to like to have the minimum amount of info about where I'm going, just the name of the place and a couple of good hotel recommendations. Everything else falls into place.
Proof, of sorts- read an UK .gov foreign office travel alert on the risks of a destination, then go there, anyway. It’s often built up to be much more than it really is. Dumbed down to the lowest common traveller, maybe.
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Re: Stop trying to have the perfect vacation
A rugged coastline that would be, but all the termites would retract to the hills. From recollection, their customer service skills could use some help.DeparRudeAnts wrote: ↑Sun Jul 30, 2023 7:59 amIgnoring the current state of the world, it wouldn't surprise me if in 20 years I'll be drinking dollar beers on a beach in Afghanistan.Freightdog wrote: ↑Thu Jul 27, 2023 8:03 pmI think it’s potentially worse. With a little romantic idealism, and far too much (biased, subjective, ultimately misleading) information, I imagine most people finding that things aren’t what they’d hoped.sigmoid wrote: ↑Thu Jul 27, 2023 7:46 pm was a surprise once you arrived. I think that's what's lost now when people have too much information and plan everything in advance. I still like to like to have the minimum amount of info about where I'm going, just the name of the place and a couple of good hotel recommendations. Everything else falls into place.
Proof, of sorts- read an UK .gov foreign office travel alert on the risks of a destination, then go there, anyway. It’s often built up to be much more than it really is. Dumbed down to the lowest common traveller, maybe.
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Re: Stop trying to have the perfect vacation
Give it 20 and they'll have built a beach, and their engrish will be good n proper
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My vacation isn’t perfect. But 10 into 14 days in the Penh. I can only say I’m loving returning after 5 years. I wasn’t expecting perfect. But I’ve got exactly what I was expecting lol
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Re: Stop trying to have the perfect vacation
Most of them already have good English. On of the up/down sides of being a colony.DeparRudeAnts wrote: ↑Sun Jul 30, 2023 11:17 am Give it 20 and they'll have built a beach, and their engrish will be good n proper
Re: Stop trying to have the perfect vacation
phuketrichard wrote: ↑Fri Jul 28, 2023 5:44 pm seen that an have seen lots others as well>
We ( those who managed to do the trail before Afghanistan closed its borders and the Revolution in Iran in 79 )
have some fond memories
good fb group with lots of us old guys posting
https://www.facebook.com/groups/5214656 ... 9691238317
things have changed Enormously in the past 48 years since i first ventured to Asia and SE asia
there some great books out there from people that were traveling, smuggling an enjoying life in the 60-70's
these are a few i've read
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This was decent. He went to meet Geoff Crowther in Goa, sadly he died a couple of years ago. I imagine he had a few stories to tell.
AinC reels off an eloquent and thought provoking monologue adlib
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Re: Stop trying to have the perfect vacation
I'm actually reading that right now. I like the way it gives a sense of nostalgia for something that was before my time and I had no part in - I always liked the idea of the hippie trail.
Re: Stop trying to have the perfect vacation
Uuups, Salang tunnel is indeed built already in 64, by the russsians, didnt know they were already there in the 60s. I was in Quetta on october, its "full-taliban-country", you cant move in the city as a turist alone, you are at about 80 miles away from the AFG-border and the Levies will escort you to the Bloomstar-hotel, only place foreigners are allowed to stay, and it aint fancy. There are better hotels in Quetta (more expensive) but they have the bad attitude to get bombed. If you cross the city, escorted by at least 2 Levies-cars its like a practical joke, everybody knows you must be very important and looks to you like that. One of the good things in Quetta is maybe the cheap petrol who gets smuggled in from IRN, dirt-cheap, but the pick-ups who do the trip every night are ticking time-bombs, you dont wanna crash against them, ZAMYAD is the brand, incredible what i have seen on it and hardly breakdowns (more accidents) !!mikeukt wrote: ↑Fri Jul 28, 2023 9:41 pm Gotta love threads like this dealing with travel being an adventure because of the uncertainties and unknowns. Guidebooks and talking to people, great. Mine started in the UK with the Bit Book and one memorable conversation with someone who’d been there and raved about Quetta. Quetta in 76 was a great place. Few travellers, friendly people, great hash shops. After that trip, which took about a year and never went beyond Indian sub-continent, didn’t need any book, all just fell into place.
Contrast this freedom and excitement with another thread recently about someone who’d damaged their spine falling over and needed financial help getting home. Several comments along the lines of if you can’t afford the insurance, you shouldn’t travel. To me that’s a sad attitude. Travel only first class and cocooned in money. Really! Yes, bad things can happen, but what are you going to do? Stay home in case a drunk driver runs you over???
Life can be safe and very boring. Or…… OK, that's my tuppence worth.
PS Someone said the Salang tunnel was built in the 80s. Not so, well before, I went through it in the 70s.
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