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Re: Old laptop SSD replacement - or new laptop

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daeum_tnaot wrote: Sun Feb 05, 2023 2:26 pm
Jerry Atrick wrote: Sun Feb 05, 2023 2:06 pm
I would update both the SSD and RAM

SSD's are all the same physical dimensions so non issue there

Mind you I haven't used windows for 16 years so can't comment on that, but will run Ubuntu like it's a brand new machine afterwards and unlike ten years ago there's no longer compatibility issues with Libreoffice and windows stuff

I'm using a eight year old laptop that should have been obsolete in 2018 in this manner with no issues
Hi Jerry Atrick, a slight diversion from the original topic but I have Ubuntu installed on some other, older computers from Cambodia that had fake Windows on them.

It's all fine and good for basic functions, but I haven't really been able to figure out how to add new software that's not in the Ubuntu app store. Even recently I wanted to see if the CD/DVD drive was working and apparently you have to install some software to run the CD/DVD drive. Is there some simple way to install software? It seems like I end up searching on the internet for how to do things like install software- and sometimes it doesn't work.
CD/DVD are obsolete so I dunno about installing software for those

But, if something isn't in the ubuntu store I google, for example's sake, "Install telegram from terminal ubuntu" and copy pasta the relevant commands into my terminal and it installs
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Re: Old laptop SSD replacement - or new laptop

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phuketrichard wrote: Sun Feb 05, 2023 2:24 pm 7 years old, My $.05 worth
Buy a new laptop, things have changed so much ( most new laptops dont even come with cd/dvd drives and at least 2 usb and a type c usb port and at least an hdmi port as well)
Dont know about PP but here you can get a decent 14" screen Asus ( what i use) acer or hp with 500 gig ssd and core i5 windows 10 or 11 for between $500-700
Yeah, it's not really about the cost, its more about a philosophy of making tech work as long as possible. I don't agree with the forced obsolete thing that some tech companies foist on you. Also, this laptop has been incredibly reliable with no issues over 7 years except that I replaced the battery cells.

In Cambodia you have to be careful buying a new laptop as I would say 90% of new computers have fake Windows on them. At least that's the way it was a few years ago.
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daeum_tnaot wrote: Sun Feb 05, 2023 2:36 pm
phuketrichard wrote: Sun Feb 05, 2023 2:24 pm 7 years old, My $.05 worth
Buy a new laptop, things have changed so much ( most new laptops dont even come with cd/dvd drives and at least 2 usb and a type c usb port and at least an hdmi port as well)
Dont know about PP but here you can get a decent 14" screen Asus ( what i use) acer or hp with 500 gig ssd and core i5 windows 10 or 11 for between $500-700
Yeah, it's not really about the cost, its more about a philosophy of making tech work as long as possible. I don't agree with the forced obsolete thing that some tech companies foist on you. Also, this laptop has been incredibly reliable with no issues over 7 years except that I replaced the battery cells.

In Cambodia you have to be careful buying a new laptop as I would say 90% of new computers have fake Windows on them. At least that's the way it was a few years ago.
This is not so much the case now. When I registered my new laptop with the MSI app that came built in the dealer was listed in the options of "where did you purchase..."
Also, genuine installations of windows are the rule now rather than the exception. I actually went through the First Boot up after I bought the laptop while I was still in the shop. They did ask me if I wanted any extra software installing for free but I declined that offer as I have all my own stuff.
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IraHayes wrote: Sun Feb 05, 2023 2:31 pm Most current SSDs should be compatible with a 7-year-old laptop, but it is best to check the specifications of your laptop to ensure compatibility. Consider the following compatibility factors:

1: SATA vs NVMe: Make sure your laptop supports the type of SSD you are purchasing. SATA SSDs are more common and compatible with most laptops, while NVMe SSDs offer faster speeds but may not be compatible with older laptops.
2: Physical size: Make sure the SSD you purchase fits properly into the laptop's drive bay. The most common sizes are 2.5-inch and M.2.
3: Power requirements: Some laptop models may not provide enough power to run an SSD, so check the power requirements of the SSD and the specifications of your laptop's power supply.

It is also a good idea to consult your laptop's manufacturer for specific recommendations or to check for any firmware updates that may be needed for compatibility.

and PR posted as I was typing this out so I would like to add that his suggestion of buying a new laptop is valid for the reasons he has stated above.
But, if you are happy with your laptop and maybe don't want to stretch it to $500-$700 then my suggestion would be to take it to a computer shop and have them check it out and install the necessary kit.

I have purchased a laptop from Gold One, 405Eo, Kampuchea Krom Blvd. and also had them do some work on my old laptop and put extra RAM in my new one. They should come up on a forum search as I'm sure I have mentioned them before.
https://www.goldonecomputer.com
All right, looks like I have a number of things to check. Will consider buying a new one as well. Thanks for this good advice!
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Jerry Atrick wrote: Sun Feb 05, 2023 2:34 pm
daeum_tnaot wrote: Sun Feb 05, 2023 2:26 pm
Hi Jerry Atrick, a slight diversion from the original topic but I have Ubuntu installed on some other, older computers from Cambodia that had fake Windows on them.

It's all fine and good for basic functions, but I haven't really been able to figure out how to add new software that's not in the Ubuntu app store. Even recently I wanted to see if the CD/DVD drive was working and apparently you have to install some software to run the CD/DVD drive. Is there some simple way to install software? It seems like I end up searching on the internet for how to do things like install software- and sometimes it doesn't work.
CD/DVD are obsolete so I dunno about installing software for those

But, if something isn't in the ubuntu store I google, for example's sake, "Install telegram from terminal ubuntu" and copy pasta the relevant commands into my terminal and it installs
I'll keep trying it and see if I can get all the software. No one else is using those computers so it's not used very often.
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daeum_tnaot wrote: Sun Feb 05, 2023 2:19 pm
Kammekor wrote: Sun Feb 05, 2023 2:02 pm 7 years is a lot. Finding the same sized SSD won't be too difficult but finding one with the correct bus (connector) might be a challenge. Als check the max. size supported by your hardware or it might not work.
Before you start your search check which disk controller the laptop uses.
Hi Kammekor, thank you for that. Is the disk controller something that I can find on the internet or somewhere on the computer, or in the BIOS, etc.?
I would start at the company's website.
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This may or may not help with your CD/DVD drive >> https://askubuntu.com/questions/353803/ ... -dvd-drive
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daeum_tnaot wrote: Sun Feb 05, 2023 2:36 pm Yeah, it's not really about the cost, its more about a philosophy of making tech work as long as possible. I don't agree with the forced obsolete thing that some tech companies foist on you. Also, this laptop has been incredibly reliable with no issues over 7 years except that I replaced the battery cells.
I've been using an HP Probook for the last 11 years. A few years ago I doubled the ram to 8GB $26 and swapped in a 480GB SSD $59.

I prefer to use old software which is usually better designed, less bloated, and runs like greased lightning. And I also resent the industry scam whereby tools are marketed as if they were fashion accessories. I did buy an Asus machine running Win10 as a backup machine but I swiftly junked it.
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Weigh it up.
What is the minimum worthwhile size? Compatibility? How much? What’s the cost of a new machine against a serviceable update to carry you through 2-3 more years, assuming the rest of the machine is working fine. What future developments would this carry you beyond that would be worth holding on for?
These days, the main reason for a laptop is screen size in my case.

I think with pc compatibility, Kingston, Crucial, would provide a good choice with a sensible budget. I actually did this for a while with my old MacBookAir, which is 2013. I’ve since reverted to the original 256GB as Apple compatibility was a little more complex. The Air is still running fine.

As is my my old 13” pro from 2009, albeit considerably more slowly.
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