Random Dude wrote: ↑Fri Dec 23, 2022 1:21 am Fauci has become the target of politics, and people pissed off about everything that has happened as a result of covid IMO - lockdowns, economy going to shit etc. And he was the one stuck in the difficult place where he had to tell a president and population who didn't want to hear it that there really was a global pandemic, it really was spreading quickly, it really did have the potential to kill millions and crash our health systems and it really was an emergency situation requiring urgent action. People started attacking the messenger when he told them that, as there was currently no vaccine or anything to fight the brand new virus the only way we had of avoiding catastrophe was trying to contain the spread, just like every other pandemic or disease throughout history. That meant lockdowns and understandably people didn't like it, but that doesn't change how a virus operates and the impact it has on the population. There's a force of nature happening, it's going to have inevitable consequences, this is how we can try to fight it and mitigate the harm it does - if you don't like that don't shoot the messenger, that's just how it works.

Countries in Asia were having good results in containing the spread of covid, people suggested it was because they were wearing masks but that was pretty much mocked in western countries, nobody wanted to wear a mask. At the same time there was a global shortage of medical supplies like masks - I remember reading that the US was discouraging mask use for a time because the worry was that if the population started buying masks en masse there would be nothing available for health workers, who were the ones most in need of masks. People were also asking how could a mask work when a virus is much smaller than the weave of the fabric on a mask, it would be like trying to catch sand in a fishing net. It was a reasonable question and eventually researchers found that the masks didn't stop the virus itself, they stopped the airborne moisture that the virus traveled on and that masks were indeed very successful in helping preventing the spread of covid. By now the damage was done though, people who were anti any covid measure started talking about how the scientists kept changing their minds and blah blah... here we are today.

As for vaccines and the lack of long-term testing... it was an emergency situation, waiting 10 -15 years to see if there would be any possible long-term effects isn't much of an option when you have a pandemic happening today.

xandreu wrote: ↑Fri Dec 23, 2022 12:54 pm

Random Dude wrote: ↑Fri Dec 23, 2022 1:21 am Fauci has become the target of politics, and people pissed off about everything that has happened as a result of covid IMO - lockdowns, economy going to shit etc. And he was the one stuck in the difficult place where he had to tell a president and population who didn't want to hear it that there really was a global pandemic, it really was spreading quickly, it really did have the potential to kill millions and crash our health systems and it really was an emergency situation requiring urgent action. People started attacking the messenger when he told them that, as there was currently no vaccine or anything to fight the brand new virus the only way we had of avoiding catastrophe was trying to contain the spread, just like every other pandemic or disease throughout history. That meant lockdowns and understandably people didn't like it, but that doesn't change how a virus operates and the impact it has on the population. There's a force of nature happening, it's going to have inevitable consequences, this is how we can try to fight it and mitigate the harm it does - if you don't like that don't shoot the messenger, that's just how it works.

Countries in Asia were having good results in containing the spread of covid, people suggested it was because they were wearing masks but that was pretty much mocked in western countries, nobody wanted to wear a mask. At the same time there was a global shortage of medical supplies like masks - I remember reading that the US was discouraging mask use for a time because the worry was that if the population started buying masks en masse there would be nothing available for health workers, who were the ones most in need of masks. People were also asking how could a mask work when a virus is much smaller than the weave of the fabric on a mask, it would be like trying to catch sand in a fishing net. It was a reasonable question and eventually researchers found that the masks didn't stop the virus itself, they stopped the airborne moisture that the virus traveled on and that masks were indeed very successful in helping preventing the spread of covid. By now the damage was done though, people who were anti any covid measure started talking about how the scientists kept changing their minds and blah blah... here we are today.

As for vaccines and the lack of long-term testing... it was an emergency situation, waiting 10 -15 years to see if there would be any possible long-term effects isn't much of an option when you have a pandemic happening today.

Sounds like a similar situation we had in the UK, only our ‘Fauci’ was the then Health Secretary, Matt Hancock. I’m not denying that he didn’t make mistakes along the way, or that there were times when he was, at best incompetent, and at worst, clearly out of his depth, but there was a time when you could have been forgiven for assuming that he was solely responsible for the global outbreak while sitting in his secret hideaway bunker, out to kill off as much of the British population as he could get away with.