Doc67 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 27, 2022 1:42 pm

orichá wrote: ↑Sun Nov 27, 2022 1:13 pm Times change. ASEAN makes rules.

How long will it be before getting a long-term visa (of any type) for Cambodia becomes impossible -- unless one is really wealthy, like in Thailand or Indonesia?

I have alluded to this several times, it is one of the reasons this country is a no good for me long term. They can slowly drive you out, year by year, with more fees and restrictions. Or not so slowly with a huge FRO notice in the Phnom Penh Post.

But I am a moaner so nobody listens...

I completely agree with your analysis. cordialement

Hell, it seems like Thailand comes up with some new long-stay scheme every other week.

For the purposes of ASEAN comparison:

While Thailand has a wide variety of visas and extensions, various immigration offices have taken to throwing in surprise requirements and tightening them the last few years. Three years ago, when I had fully complied with the requirements of my retirement extension, with embassy certified pensions statement, I was asked for a previous year's tax statement. WTF? Fortunately, being the cynical type, I had prepared printouts right off my government pension account (non-tax) but had held them back -- just in case. That trick worked out. But I saw the writing on the wall. I and many others have recently switched to the expensive agent route. Money (16,000 baht/US$450), so far anyway, makes problems go away.

Vietnam amended (a.k.a. toughened) its visa offerings, approved by the National Assembly in late 2019, effective July 2020. Created 5 investor Business visa classes, requiring big money. So gone are the admittedly dodgy Business visas I used to get. The 90-day tourist visa (still unavailable so far this year) was made painful because you have to check in every 30 days for a residency stamp. Cheap but what a pain in the butt.

So, as @Doc67 notes:

I have alluded to this several times, it is one of the reasons this country is a no good for me long term. They can slowly drive you out, year by year, with more fees and restrictions.

truffledog wrote: ↑Sun Nov 27, 2022 4:09 pm

Doc67 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 27, 2022 1:42 pm

orichá wrote: ↑Sun Nov 27, 2022 1:13 pm Times change. ASEAN makes rules.

How long will it be before getting a long-term visa (of any type) for Cambodia becomes impossible -- unless one is really wealthy, like in Thailand or Indonesia?

I have alluded to this several times, it is one of the reasons this country is a no good for me long term. They can slowly drive you out, year by year, with more fees and restrictions. Or not so slowly with a huge FRO notice in the Phnom Penh Post.

But I am a moaner so nobody listens...

Most countries rely on tourist dolla and still they make it kind of harder to stay there longterm. We contribute to the development of the countries, dont depend on their local welfare and dont steal anybody's job. We should be more welcome?

13 years I have been hearing "they are gonna make the visa extension hard to get soon" and there hasn't been any change really - bar now we need a wp for renewal - which everybody should have in any case

It's horrible. The nannystate appears all over the planet. I'm just happy to have experienced the good times. Before surveillance cameras at each corner. But I hear the Chinese revolt against this high-tech revolution. There is no money in it. Where will this ultimately lead us? To a better place? I would say that if the $500 annual agent fee is too high, I would be worried about other things as well.

truffledog wrote: ↑Sun Nov 27, 2022 4:09 pm

Doc67 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 27, 2022 1:42 pm

orichá wrote: ↑Sun Nov 27, 2022 1:13 pm Times change. ASEAN makes rules.

How long will it be before getting a long-term visa (of any type) for Cambodia becomes impossible -- unless one is really wealthy, like in Thailand or Indonesia?

I have alluded to this several times, it is one of the reasons this country is a no good for me long term. They can slowly drive you out, year by year, with more fees and restrictions. Or not so slowly with a huge FRO notice in the Phnom Penh Post.

But I am a moaner so nobody listens...

Most countries rely on tourist dolla and still they make it kind of harder to stay there longterm. We contribute to the development of the countries, dont depend on their local welfare and dont steal anybody's job. We should be more welcome?

Last night I was sitting at an outside table at 130 Gastropub when a guy came up to me and asked for $.50. I was about to give him some money but decided against it. He walked over to the other two (2) outside tables that had people and was begging from them. Couldn’t tell by his accent where he was from but he was looking a little rough.

Is this the type of person that contributes to the development of their country? Is this the type of person that’s not looking for welfare? Should this individual even be in a foreign country?

In my opinion this is the type of thing that causes countries to strictly enforce or even modify their long-stay visa requirements.

John Bingham wrote: ↑Sun Nov 27, 2022 4:50 pm How long before visas become hard to get ( for dodgy people with no valid paperwork)?

I was thinking along the same lines, is the OP talking about people who currently obtain their visas because they legitimately qualify for them or for those who don't?