atst wrote: ↑Sat Nov 12, 2022 8:26 pm I thought Russians couldn't travel and had trouble accessing thier bank accounts overseas, has all that stuff finished?

We are public health scientists who have closely followed the emergence of 2019 novel coronavirus disease (COVID-19)

and are deeply concerned about its impact on global health and wellbeing.

We stand together to strongly condemn conspiracy theories suggesting that COVID-19 does not have a natural origin.

Our analyses clearly show that SARS-CoV-2 is not a laboratory construct or a purposefully manipulated virus.

Conclusion

Obtaining related viral sequences from animal sources would be the most definitive way of revealing viral origins.

(Fully formed or evolutionary intermediate)

ExPenhMan wrote: ↑Fri Nov 25, 2022 2:05 pm Very interesting video presentation by Dr. John Campbell lays out new reporting from the Telegraph and others:

HEADLINE: UK scientists covered up Covid lab leak theory despite evidence for it

Telegraph has a paywall, but here is link to TVP report: https://tvpworld.com/64707406/uk-scient ... nce-for-it

A trove of emails countering scientists' support of the natural emergence of SARS-COV19 were never published -- until now.

The counter-arguments by scientists in varying degrees of support for the lab leak theory were aimed at two separate letters signed by dozens of scientists, published in The Lancet (Feb. 2020) and Nature (March 2020).

A Freedom of Information request by writer James Tobias yielded the many suppressed emails discussing the two published letters. Below are two summaries

From the Lancet, a large group of scientists dismissed the lab leak theory and buried it under the catch-all "conspiracy theories":

We are public health scientists who have closely followed the emergence of 2019 novel coronavirus disease (COVID-19)

and are deeply concerned about its impact on global health and wellbeing.

We stand together to strongly condemn conspiracy theories suggesting that COVID-19 does not have a natural origin.

Similarly a month later in Nature:

Our analyses clearly show that SARS-CoV-2 is not a laboratory construct or a purposefully manipulated virus.

Conclusion

Obtaining related viral sequences from animal sources would be the most definitive way of revealing viral origins.

(Fully formed or evolutionary intermediate)

After more than two years of BS from the WHO, health authorities, pharma firms and so-called scientists who won't dare risk their careers/university tenures and fears of being cancelled, I don't trust a thing they say. It will take a generation or two for them to clean up their act, if that's at all possible. I think it may not be possible at all. Forever.