Thailand Travel Restrictions and Info
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Fair policy to eliminate that kind of stuff, I find it bizarre when I'm sitting in an open air bar and a group of them stop outside and just stand there staring in for a few minutes.Doc67 wrote: ↑Mon Sep 26, 2022 2:25 pmCowshed Cowboy wrote: ↑Mon Sep 26, 2022 2:03 pmFurther to my comment above about being surprised at the increase re the govt spokesman's figure for August in relation to July.Cowshed Cowboy wrote: ↑Fri Sep 16, 2022 9:59 amFor that figure to be correct is means 1.8 million came here from August 1st to September 8th which is another big increase month on month from July. I'm a bit surprised it is that high and there is a tendency for the final confirmed figure to be lower, I suspect in their final analysis of the data they strip out people not on tourist visas. Even so I've said all along their forecast of 10 million was realistic and these numbers back it up. They have oversight on future flight schedules, bookings etc.phuketrichard wrote: ↑Thu Sep 15, 2022 2:18 pm Over 5 million foreign tourists arrived in Thailand in 9 months
not sure of 10 but 9 + for sure
everyone i speak to in Phuket & Samui says its still dead with only Indians and Arabs being about
https://thethaiger.com/news/national/ov ... nment-saysA Thai government spokesperson has announced yesterday that over five million foreign tourists have arrived in the ‘land of smiles’ between January 1 and September 8. The total number of foreign visitors was 5,018,172, said spokesman Thanakorn Wangboonkongchana.
The Tourism Authority of Thailand says the biggest group of tourists came from Malaysia, with 751,397 arrivals. Up next was India, with 480,825 arrivals. In third place was Laos, with 310,464 arrivals. Cambodia sent the fourth most tourists to Thailand, with a total of 249,084 arrivals.
TAT estimated that the number of tourists would reach 10 million, based on advanced flights and hotel bookings for the next three months.
August confirmed figure just released : 1,174,743 which is just 50k higher than the 1,124,227 reported in July !!! Something clearly doesn't add up to the govt spokesman's comment as that makes year to date August 4.4m. This is the first month this year where the monthly % compared to 2019 has not increased. It has been reported revenue per tourist has dropped significantly since reopening compared to 2019 which is likely due to theshorter-term near markets being the main visitors.
Connecting the dots I think we see why they have relaxed/extended the length of tourist visas from October 1st.It has been reported revenue per tourist has dropped significantly since reopening compared to 2019
That'll be the Indians. Outside a go go bar in Nana Plaza, 8 of them rocked up. The Mamasam wouldn't let them in until all 8 had bought, and paid in advance for, a beer each. This took at least 5 minutes of discussion and peeking in the door to have a look first. The girl told us they get 45 minutes to drink it and either buy more or leave. It seems they have been going in and buying 1 beer between 2 or more and staying for hours. The locals don't like them and don't care who knows about it.
Phuket if full of them, all walking around but very few in the bars actually spending money. We saw a couple in a bar and they were buying lots of lady drinks. We got chatting - these guys looked Indian but came from Stanmore, NW London!
So much for Thailand chasing high value tourists, they have got Gupta and the gang and they don't spend a rub unless they absolutely have to.
The Indians have always been low season fillers in Pattaya and to be honest they've got hotels/restaurants that cater to them opening up again, without them things would have been really quiet since May. However Thailand needs the long haul market that stay 16 days plus, not just the 5 day Asian market. If they don't start returning in numbers from November onwards I think they've got a big problem on their hands.
I've never bought into the power that be's high value tourist clap trap, Thailand has built itself on a mass market model which absorbs a huge lower skilled labour force, I don't see how can they get away from that. I do wonder whether they are competitive at the top end of the market these days, if anything wealthier people can be more discerning and expect more value for their money. High tax on luxury items like wine etc harms Thailand's competitiveness.
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Of course reopening the land borders meant a sudden influx from visitors from neighboring countries (with Malaysians leading the overall arrivals if i remember correctly?), who tend to stay shorter and spend less than overseas visitors.
So the fact that they now have "millions" more visitors but little money to show for might not be that surprising.
As there's some kind of trouble in pretty much every country where Thailand's most affluent visitors used to come from, recovery might be quite a bit slower than many had hoped (or dreamed up).
So the fact that they now have "millions" more visitors but little money to show for might not be that surprising.
As there's some kind of trouble in pretty much every country where Thailand's most affluent visitors used to come from, recovery might be quite a bit slower than many had hoped (or dreamed up).
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2 points from the above 2 posts
Phuket has areas, ( we even have a millionaires row in Kamala, the current king has a house there as well) ) that caters an has for decades to the high spending tourists. All of Laguna area is 5 star resorts >
New attraction In Kamala just opened that admission is 3,000 baht!!
Malaysians come up 2-3 weekends/month and spend spend lots of cash> They and Singaporeans are not limited to the 2 visa exempt land border entries /year, ( lets see how this 300 baht /entry is handled for them thou)
Head down to the border sometime, Betong and to a degree Sadao are amazing, the clubs, resorts, attractions all set up for the Malaysian /Singaporean visitors. I seriously doubt they spend less than those backpackers on Koh Tao or Phang Nga or the Indians in Pattaya
I know some Singaporean bikers that think nothing of riding up to Thailand for a day or 2
Than add in the medical tourists>, those on 2-3 day golf holidays from Japan, the divers heading out the similan islands during the high season
Thailand is still the leader in SE asia for tourists
The Laos and Cambodians cross over monthly/bi monthly to shop
Phuket has areas, ( we even have a millionaires row in Kamala, the current king has a house there as well) ) that caters an has for decades to the high spending tourists. All of Laguna area is 5 star resorts >
New attraction In Kamala just opened that admission is 3,000 baht!!
Malaysians come up 2-3 weekends/month and spend spend lots of cash> They and Singaporeans are not limited to the 2 visa exempt land border entries /year, ( lets see how this 300 baht /entry is handled for them thou)
Head down to the border sometime, Betong and to a degree Sadao are amazing, the clubs, resorts, attractions all set up for the Malaysian /Singaporean visitors. I seriously doubt they spend less than those backpackers on Koh Tao or Phang Nga or the Indians in Pattaya
I know some Singaporean bikers that think nothing of riding up to Thailand for a day or 2
Than add in the medical tourists>, those on 2-3 day golf holidays from Japan, the divers heading out the similan islands during the high season
Thailand is still the leader in SE asia for tourists
The Laos and Cambodians cross over monthly/bi monthly to shop
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THURSDAY, September 29, 2022
THAI AIRWAYS plans new luggage allowance rules for passengers with effect from April 1
THURSDAY, September 29, 2022
Thai Airways International (THAI) is changing its passenger luggage allowance from overall weight to number of pieces with limited weight for tickets bought from next month, but for flights from April 1, 2023.
In its internal announcement to its ticket-selling partners, THAI said the new luggage rules will be applied to advance tickets sold from October 15 and will be come into effect from April 1 next year.
The new rules will be applied to flights within the TC3 zone (Asia, Australia and New Zealand) and between TC3 zone and TC2 zone (Europe, Africa and the Middle East).
The new rules will grant luggage rights as follows:
[And to keep it simple, here are the new rules]
THAI plans new luggage allowance rules for passengers with effect from April 1
● First-class passenger allowed to check in three pieces of luggage (with ceiling of 32kg per piece)
● Business-class passenger allowed two pieces of luggage (32 kg/piece)
● Special economy-class passenger allowed two pieces of luggage (23kg/piece)
● Y/B/M economy-class two pieces (23kg/piece)
● Other economy class one piece (23kg/piece)
● Royal Orchid Plus Platinum Member Extra allowed 3 pieces (23kg/piece)
● ROP & Star Alliance Gold Member Extra allowed 2 pieces (23kg/piece)
● ROP Silver Member Extra allowed one piece (23kg/pc).
THAI has yet to make an official announcement of the new luggage rules on its website for passengers.
THE NATION
THAI AIRWAYS plans new luggage allowance rules for passengers with effect from April 1
THURSDAY, September 29, 2022
Thai Airways International (THAI) is changing its passenger luggage allowance from overall weight to number of pieces with limited weight for tickets bought from next month, but for flights from April 1, 2023.
In its internal announcement to its ticket-selling partners, THAI said the new luggage rules will be applied to advance tickets sold from October 15 and will be come into effect from April 1 next year.
The new rules will be applied to flights within the TC3 zone (Asia, Australia and New Zealand) and between TC3 zone and TC2 zone (Europe, Africa and the Middle East).
The new rules will grant luggage rights as follows:
[And to keep it simple, here are the new rules]
THAI plans new luggage allowance rules for passengers with effect from April 1
● First-class passenger allowed to check in three pieces of luggage (with ceiling of 32kg per piece)
● Business-class passenger allowed two pieces of luggage (32 kg/piece)
● Special economy-class passenger allowed two pieces of luggage (23kg/piece)
● Y/B/M economy-class two pieces (23kg/piece)
● Other economy class one piece (23kg/piece)
● Royal Orchid Plus Platinum Member Extra allowed 3 pieces (23kg/piece)
● ROP & Star Alliance Gold Member Extra allowed 2 pieces (23kg/piece)
● ROP Silver Member Extra allowed one piece (23kg/pc).
THAI has yet to make an official announcement of the new luggage rules on its website for passengers.
THE NATION
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gotta love them< desperate for tourism to increase, give extension on visa exempt from 30 to 45 days, voa 15 to 30 days and at the same time add an extra 300 baht to enter and now this>>> really makes ya wonder who's in charge of marketing
these effect divers and people on boats as well
Thailand’s 5 national parks raise entry fees for foreigners by 100%
Thailand’s five national parks announced new entry fees to their attractions and they’re stinging foreigners in the pocket, increasing entrance costs by 100%. Entry fees for Thai people remain the same.
Khao Yai National Park in the central province of Nakhon Ratchasima, Prachinburi, Saraburi, and Nakhon Nayok
Adult: 400 baht
Children: 200 baht
Khao Laem Ya – Mu Koh Samet National Park in the eastern province of Rayong
(including Koh Talu, Koh Kudee, Koh Kham – Koh Kruai)
Adult: 300 baht
Children: 150 baht
Mu Koh Ang Thong National Marine Park in the southern province of Surat Thani
(including Koh Wua Ta Lab and Koh Mae Koh)
Adult: 300 baht
Children: 150 baht
Hat Nappharat Thara-Mu Ko Phi Phi National Park in the southern province of Krabi
(including Koh Phi Phi Don, Koh Phi Phi Lay, and Koh Mai Phai)
Adult: 400 baht
Children: 200 baht
Mu Koh Lanta National Park in the southern province of Krabi
(including Koh Rok, Koh Ngai, Koh Ha, and Koh Hin Daeng – Kong Hin Muang)
Adult: 400 baht
Children: 200 baht
*Monks, children under the age of three, and people with disabilities can enter for free
*Children are defined as people aged three to fourteen years old and standing less than 140 centimetres tall
Entry fees as of December 6 last year at the five national parks asked foreign adults to pay 200 baht while children had to pay 100 baht.
Entry fees for Thai visitors remain unchanged.
https://thethaiger.com/news/national/th ... ers-by-100
these effect divers and people on boats as well
Thailand’s 5 national parks raise entry fees for foreigners by 100%
Thailand’s five national parks announced new entry fees to their attractions and they’re stinging foreigners in the pocket, increasing entrance costs by 100%. Entry fees for Thai people remain the same.
Khao Yai National Park in the central province of Nakhon Ratchasima, Prachinburi, Saraburi, and Nakhon Nayok
Adult: 400 baht
Children: 200 baht
Khao Laem Ya – Mu Koh Samet National Park in the eastern province of Rayong
(including Koh Talu, Koh Kudee, Koh Kham – Koh Kruai)
Adult: 300 baht
Children: 150 baht
Mu Koh Ang Thong National Marine Park in the southern province of Surat Thani
(including Koh Wua Ta Lab and Koh Mae Koh)
Adult: 300 baht
Children: 150 baht
Hat Nappharat Thara-Mu Ko Phi Phi National Park in the southern province of Krabi
(including Koh Phi Phi Don, Koh Phi Phi Lay, and Koh Mai Phai)
Adult: 400 baht
Children: 200 baht
Mu Koh Lanta National Park in the southern province of Krabi
(including Koh Rok, Koh Ngai, Koh Ha, and Koh Hin Daeng – Kong Hin Muang)
Adult: 400 baht
Children: 200 baht
*Monks, children under the age of three, and people with disabilities can enter for free
*Children are defined as people aged three to fourteen years old and standing less than 140 centimetres tall
Entry fees as of December 6 last year at the five national parks asked foreign adults to pay 200 baht while children had to pay 100 baht.
Entry fees for Thai visitors remain unchanged.
https://thethaiger.com/news/national/th ... ers-by-100
In a nation run by swine, all pigs are upward-mobile and the rest of us are fucked until we can put our acts together: not necessarily to win, but mainly to keep from losing completely. HST
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Immigration police detail restrictions on Cambodian visa runs from Pattaya
By Barry Kenyon -
October 14, 2022
Thai and Cambodian border police at Aranyaprathet and Pong Nam Ron, a three hour drive from Pattaya, have detailed the rules for foreigners wishing to obtain a further 45 days to extend their stay in Thailand. The new entry stamp can later be extended for a further month at Thai immigration offices for 1,900 baht. The scheme is popular with Brits, western Europeans, Americans and Australians.
Borey San, a Cambodian clearance officer, said it was essential that applicants register with a Pattaya tour and minibus operator in advance of travel to the border. The company must then send a passport copy to the border post of choice to check that the applicant is eligible for the new permission. Unregistered individuals arriving at the frontier under their own steam could not be serviced the same day and would need to spend several days or a week in Cambodia on vacation pending a review of their application. The alternative was to remain in Thailand to risk overstay.
A Thai immigration captain explained that most nationalities could take advantage of the visa run scheme, but there were 19 countries whose citizens could not get a new permission at any land border. The countries included China, India, several central Asian “stans” and a dozen states in Africa and the Indian Ocean. Separately, no individual could take advantage of the scheme more than twice in a 12 month period to prevent foreigners living permanently in Thailand by regular border trips. He said prior submission of passport copies was necessary to avoid international visitors wasting their time by turning up unannounced.
Jessataporn Bunnag, owner of Thai Visa Center located next to Jomtien immigration bureau, said the new scheme was introduced last month after the Thai government confirmed its willingness for foreigners to stay longer without the hassle of applying for prior visas from Thai embassies in their home countries before travel. “The important thing is to show us your passport well in advance so that you can be sure you are eligible for the extra time by this particular route,” he said.
https://www.pattayamail.com/latestnews/ ... aya-413339
By Barry Kenyon -
October 14, 2022
Thai and Cambodian border police at Aranyaprathet and Pong Nam Ron, a three hour drive from Pattaya, have detailed the rules for foreigners wishing to obtain a further 45 days to extend their stay in Thailand. The new entry stamp can later be extended for a further month at Thai immigration offices for 1,900 baht. The scheme is popular with Brits, western Europeans, Americans and Australians.
Borey San, a Cambodian clearance officer, said it was essential that applicants register with a Pattaya tour and minibus operator in advance of travel to the border. The company must then send a passport copy to the border post of choice to check that the applicant is eligible for the new permission. Unregistered individuals arriving at the frontier under their own steam could not be serviced the same day and would need to spend several days or a week in Cambodia on vacation pending a review of their application. The alternative was to remain in Thailand to risk overstay.
A Thai immigration captain explained that most nationalities could take advantage of the visa run scheme, but there were 19 countries whose citizens could not get a new permission at any land border. The countries included China, India, several central Asian “stans” and a dozen states in Africa and the Indian Ocean. Separately, no individual could take advantage of the scheme more than twice in a 12 month period to prevent foreigners living permanently in Thailand by regular border trips. He said prior submission of passport copies was necessary to avoid international visitors wasting their time by turning up unannounced.
Jessataporn Bunnag, owner of Thai Visa Center located next to Jomtien immigration bureau, said the new scheme was introduced last month after the Thai government confirmed its willingness for foreigners to stay longer without the hassle of applying for prior visas from Thai embassies in their home countries before travel. “The important thing is to show us your passport well in advance so that you can be sure you are eligible for the extra time by this particular route,” he said.
https://www.pattayamail.com/latestnews/ ... aya-413339
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dam, whats it like in the rest of Thailand
Phuket town
patong 2nd road
Beach road
Soi Bangla
and more coming
Phuket town
patong 2nd road
Beach road
Soi Bangla
and more coming
In a nation run by swine, all pigs are upward-mobile and the rest of us are fucked until we can put our acts together: not necessarily to win, but mainly to keep from losing completely. HST
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Its rainy season alright
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Coldest and quietest (although I wasn't here during the pandemic) I've ever known Bangkok right now - no rain though
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