Road from Hell ? 20Kms Between Kampot and Sihanoukville
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Re: Road from Hell ? 20Kms Between Kampot and Sihanoukville
Hello Kammekor
I was not criticizing your posting in any way. I was simply developing on the theme. In general and for the most part, the roads in Cambodia are now in a very good condition for an emerging country, with a small, low-density population and devoid of wealth-creating natural resources or a very highly educated human resource such as is the case for, say, Singapore.
It is the grant aid from Japan that results in very good sections of road building in Cambodia, and for the excellent way that Japan selects its projects to support, regulates the cash-flow to those projects, based on progressive Japanese supervision and adherence to technical specification during all phases of planning and construction. Other countries that provide ODA - Official Development Assistance - Dollars as a lump sum upfront all appear to suffer a high "evaporation loss" from funds provided.
I did say - - - Forget the Politics - - - which is a polite way of saying what both of us have now said indirectly. One should be mindful of the sensitivities of a government in the country from which this forum operates.
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I was not criticizing your posting in any way. I was simply developing on the theme. In general and for the most part, the roads in Cambodia are now in a very good condition for an emerging country, with a small, low-density population and devoid of wealth-creating natural resources or a very highly educated human resource such as is the case for, say, Singapore.
It is the grant aid from Japan that results in very good sections of road building in Cambodia, and for the excellent way that Japan selects its projects to support, regulates the cash-flow to those projects, based on progressive Japanese supervision and adherence to technical specification during all phases of planning and construction. Other countries that provide ODA - Official Development Assistance - Dollars as a lump sum upfront all appear to suffer a high "evaporation loss" from funds provided.
I did say - - - Forget the Politics - - - which is a polite way of saying what both of us have now said indirectly. One should be mindful of the sensitivities of a government in the country from which this forum operates.
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Re: Road from Hell ? 20Kms Between Kampot and Sihanoukville
Hello Jaynewcastle
They didn't. As both Kamekor and myself have alluded in our own way, it was never constructed properly in the first place. For those with a long memory of overland travel in Cambodia, there are a number of roads that have had to be totally reconstructed from the road base material upwards after having been rebuilt previously with Foreign Aid/ODA and only lasting one or two wet seasons of use.
OML
They didn't. As both Kamekor and myself have alluded in our own way, it was never constructed properly in the first place. For those with a long memory of overland travel in Cambodia, there are a number of roads that have had to be totally reconstructed from the road base material upwards after having been rebuilt previously with Foreign Aid/ODA and only lasting one or two wet seasons of use.
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Re: Road from Hell ? 20Kms Between Kampot and Sihanoukville
Probably just after you last took the trip.jaynewcastle wrote: ↑Fri Aug 12, 2022 8:40 am I've got a taxi from Snooky to Kampot twice in Jan 2016 and Jan 2018, the road was perfectly fine then. It took about 90mins
Why did they dig it up ?
The crazy thing is it’s only that 20km stretch to Veal Rehn that’s terrible, the rest of the route between Kampot and Sihanoukville is hard paved sealed road surface.
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Re: Road from Hell ? 20Kms Between Kampot and Sihanoukville
This road was always being repaired. At times it was fine but now it looks worse than I have ever seen it. It has probably never been constructed properly. But we have the same problem with roads on far north Queensland. We are just as corrupt as cambodia. But building all weather roads in the tropics is not easy.
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Road from hell photos, posted by a frustrated driver on Kampot social media page yesterday:
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Re: Road from Hell ? 20Kms Between Kampot and Sihanoukville
Buy a dirt bike. Great fun. Like 20 years ago.
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Re: Road from Hell ? 20Kms Between Kampot and Sihanoukville
If that driver was so pissed with his local roads, maybe he should have voted for another party at the commune elections a few months ago? I remember a day or two after the results came out (all seats going to the same party), I was riding on a neighbourhood road which had a foot of stagnant sewer water, then weaving past broken concrete drainage covers with sticks stuck in them lest you drop a meter down, fighting horrible traffic and I thought to myself: "People better not complain about anything now, since they apparently didn't see anything wrong with any of this in the first place..."
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Re: Road from Hell ? 20Kms Between Kampot and Sihanoukville
https://vodenglish.news/wrecked-nationa ... ertAsyphD0National Road 3 linking Kampot to Preah Sihanouk has become a strip of deeply rutted red mud, a danger for residents and a headache for transport authorities who say the unstable ground likely cannot receive full repairs till 2024.
Transport Minister Sun Chanthol earlier this year acknowledged that 20 km of National Road 3 was badly damaged, and the government was seeking financial support from the Chinese government — around $60-$70 million — to repair it.
why the fuck do they need get MORE indebted to the Chinese:
does the Cambodian government ( not its leaders) have none of its own money???
I truly believe if there were no ngo's, nor foreign loans, nor grants etc etc, this country would be swallowed up by thailand or Vietnam
"....Cambodia's outstanding external debt reached more than $9.18 billion (with China accounting for more than 43 percent) as of the first half of 2021 and is expected to reach more than $10 billion by the year's end, an increase from $8.8 billion at the end of 2020."
In a nation run by swine, all pigs are upward-mobile and the rest of us are fucked until we can put our acts together: not necessarily to win, but mainly to keep from losing completely. HST
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Re: Road from Hell ? 20Kms Between Kampot and Sihanoukville
The USA has an external debt of $7.04 Trillion with $908B held by China and another $1.21t held by their old allies; Japanphuketrichard wrote: ↑Sun Sep 11, 2022 2:04 pm
"....Cambodia's outstanding external debt reached more than $9.18 billion (with China accounting for more than 43 percent) as of the first half of 2021 and is expected to reach more than $10 billion by the year's end, an increase from $8.8 billion at the end of 2020."
Let Cambodia worry about their own arrangements; clearly the USA is not in a better position
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