Immigration Crackdown

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Soi Dog wrote:
taabarang wrote: For those of us us who are married to Cambodians and or retired with only break even income the nightmare has just begun.
I don't know about the "married to Cambodians" bit, but life as an expat is getting much more difficult across the board for those of very modest means. Visa requirements everywhere will continue to get more strict and costly, and there don't seem to be any relief valves left....no other places to go (relatively inexpensive, fun and with desirable climates, anyway). The ending of era. Learn how to swim or sink like a stone.....
Part of the nightmare for marrieds of modest means would be trying to import your Cambodian wife to the EU or US. Not a slam dunk my any means.
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frank lee bent wrote:mostly being used against viets, koreans and chinese, but quite a few barang caught up in the work permit thing.
Right. mostly againt Viets. I think this is resulted from the pressure that opposition party put on the ruling party. Every week more and more illegal viets immigrants were caught.
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Myanmar is opening up fast.
You can own a business outright there now, permanent residency too.
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I guess. More and more expats will relocate to Myanmar since it offers a lots. Poor Cambodia.
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FOURTEEN SIGNPOSTS TO SLAVERY
1. Restrictions on taking money out of the country and on the establishment or retenti
on of a foreign bank account by an American citizen.
2. Abolition of private ownership of hand guns.
3. Detention of individuals without judicial process.
4. Requirements that private financial transactions be keyed to social security numbers or
other government identification so that government records of these transactions can be
kept and fed into a computer.
5. Use of compulsory education laws to forbid attendance at presently existing private
schools.
6. Compulsory non-military service.
7. Compulsory psychological treatment for non-government workers or public school children.
8. An official declaration that anti-Communist organizations are subversive and
subsequent legal action taken to suppress them.
9. Laws limiting the number of people allowed to meet in a private home.
10. Any significant change in passport regulations to make passports more difficult to
obtain or use.
11. Wage and price controls, especially in a non-wartime situation
12. Any kind of compulsory registration with the government of where individuals work.
13. Any attempt to restrict freedom of movement within the United States.
14. Any attempt to make a new major law by executive decree (that is, actually put into
effect, not merely authorized as by existing executive orders.
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The Add Jay wrote:FOURTEEN SIGNPOSTS TO SLAVERY
1. Restrictions on taking money out of the country and on the establishment or retenti
on of a foreign bank account by an American citizen.
2. Abolition of private ownership of hand guns.
3. Detention of individuals without judicial process.
4. Requirements that private financial transactions be keyed to social security numbers or
other government identification so that government records of these transactions can be
kept and fed into a computer.
5. Use of compulsory education laws to forbid attendance at presently existing private
schools.
6. Compulsory non-military service.
7. Compulsory psychological treatment for non-government workers or public school children.
8. An official declaration that anti-Communist organizations are subversive and
subsequent legal action taken to suppress them.
9. Laws limiting the number of people allowed to meet in a private home.
10. Any significant change in passport regulations to make passports more difficult to
obtain or use.
11. Wage and price controls, especially in a non-wartime situation
12. Any kind of compulsory registration with the government of where individuals work.
13. Any attempt to restrict freedom of movement within the United States.
14. Any attempt to make a new major law by executive decree (that is, actually put into
effect, not merely authorized as by existing executive orders.
Not quite sure what you are referring to here, AJ ?
9. Laws limiting the number of people allowed to meet in a private home.

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AJ has it all wrong. I am happy though that he learned how to cut and paste the word 'communist.' Let's hope that with some additional charitable donations he will be able to continue his primary schooling in the future and AJ will learn what the word stands for. Until then we will have to put up with his nonsense.

I can see that the authorities want a piece of the pie. Cambodia is doing comparably well and foreign owned businesses do the same. It will all depend on whether they come up with a solution for people who do not work in Cambodia but have draw an income from some other source.

What I find most gratifying about the discussion is the hypocrisy. The other place has made a name for itself by bashing foreigners coming in from Thailand. They also uphold the inexplicable myth that expats in Cambodia are of somewhat better quality. I guess that's because Gary Glitter is no longer around and his substitutes keep a slightly lower profile until they get deported. Now this screaming about USD 100 more per year (ok plus back fees) suggests that these high class expats are not as affluent as they claim. Perhaps, they will stop joking about low cost accommodation and fine but cheap restaurants and study those threads more carefully very soon. In short, the reality of Cambodian expats has come out at least for many of those concerned.

Visa went up from 282 to 382 plus another 20 USD for health check now? For those with numerous 1 year stamps it will be time for a new passport as this might come cheaper.

I am traveling a lot and I can prove a lot of absentee time. I wonder how they could claim that I am working in the country.
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frank lee bent wrote:Myanmar is opening up fast.
You can own a business outright there now, permanent residency too.
not all business an still u will need LOTS of $$ to grease the wheels for the correct paperwork.

I think AJ was referring to Thailand under Military rule
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Pizzalover wrote:Now this screaming about USD 100 more per year (ok plus back fees) suggests that these high class expats are not as affluent as they claim.
I don't recall anyone screaming about the fees. There was a lengthy discussion about the procedure - which is far from clear and requires quite a few documents.
Visa went up from 282 to 382 plus another 20 USD for health check now?
No, the visa went up from $25 to $35. As far as I know the visa extension didn't go up ( I get mine paid for by work and only saw the receipt briefly). The health check is 100,000 Riel.
I am traveling a lot and I can prove a lot of absentee time. I wonder how they could claim that I am working in the country.
What type of visa do you enter here on? If it's an E-class visa you will need a work permit. It doesn't how many days you are out of the country or whether you are working or not.
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Most of what I have raad so far seems to be rumour and hyperbole. Them cracking down on illegal immigrants is hardly strange. Probably happens all the time but it's just a hot topic at the moment.
Sounds like the OP was not approached in this case. I never carry my passport round here as it seems foolish to do so. I doubt they will start approaching people in the street going about their business so I cant see that those on long term visas who do not work or are retired have much to worry about. Even if they have been checking some businesses checking for work permits these people are employed and undoubtedly require one.
The issues around non working residents are still very vague and likely to remain so. Even the government here are not so crazy as to not realise the economic benefits from those who wish to stay here and are hardly going to kick everybody out. All the chat about people's relocation plans seems a touch OTT based on the limited facts that are out there.
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