Chad Sexington wrote: ↑Wed May 25, 2022 4:23 pm

IraHayes wrote: ↑Wed May 25, 2022 4:01 pm ...the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

Now they have been arguing over the semantics of the wording of the 2A for decades, but, i reckon its pretty much carved in stone and getting it removed is going to be nigh on impossible I would guess.

I think I said it before in a similar themed topic, but I fear that attempting to take guns away from some of the pro 2nd amendment/anti-big government fanatics, could result in more mass shootings than are currently happening in the US.
There’s likely to be more than a few, who’d rather go out literally ‘guns a blazing’ than give up their 2nd amendment and weapons.

Some of the advocates seen ranting about rights, 2nd and 4th amendments and interpretations of this, etc, are perfect examples of why these folks should not be allowed to possess guns, or be instrumental in legislation about this.

Fundamentally, I don’t see a problem with having privately owned firearms. 1. At home. Carefully stored, and maintained. Licenced, simply because the world is a different place from the days when the original wisdoms were written up.

But ranting and raving about rights and security doesn’t cut it. How secure and safe do those children feel, now? How much safer would the shooter feel now, were he still alive, for having murdered 19 children. Now that he’s dead, how does that make him feel safe and secure?

What rage or mental state was this kid in, that this was the best course of action that he could come up with, yet nobody could see any indicators?
If he’d simply walked into the woods and shot himself, we’d actually be asking a similar question, but without the other tragic deaths?

What does it say about society that people like him can go about, unnoticed or unchallenged, until the day they tip over? The USA isn’t entirely unique for these events, but it does seem heavily over-represented.

angkorjohn2 wrote: ↑Wed May 25, 2022 11:27 pm I cannot see how this can continue or be left without some sensible precautions in place how can people find this objectionable.

It’s about 20 years ago that Moore’s Bowling for Columbine came out. We found it hard to understand the same, back then. What is incredible is that it’s still at the discussion stage,

Kuroneko wrote: ↑Thu May 26, 2022 12:05 pm

cambo swa wrote: ↑Thu May 26, 2022 10:37 am

CaptainCanuck wrote: ↑Wed May 25, 2022 8:22 pm Just an observation .... When the last shooting happened the ranting was overwhelmingly about the shooters white maleness, certain posters making multiple post to advance their diatribe against white males being the bane of society ..... Here we have the same amount of posts but ne'er one mention of the shooter being an Hispanic transgender ..... I guess race and gender only matter when it's a white male being bad ??

Mr. Canuck, the photos you attached are not the shooter. Perhaps relying on the NY Post and wherever you got your information should be verified. No mention of transsexual and race because it is not true.

Salvador Ramos Transgender Rumors Spread Like Wildfire ...
https://www.newsweek.com › ... › Gun Violence
20 hours ago — The claim that Ramos was transgender is spreading rapidly online, along with photos that appear to have been taken from a Reddit account ...

PICTURED: Transgender woman wrongly accused of being Texas school shooter, as Arizona GOP rep is forced to delete tweet claiming the real mass-murderer was 'transsexual leftist illegal alien' https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... ooter.html

The Far Right Is Falsely Blaming a Trans Woman for the Texas ...
https://www.vice.com › Home › News
15 hours ago — The shooter was a “transexual leftist illegal alien named Salvatore Ramos” tweeted far-right Republican Rep. Paul Gosar, citing a bogus ...

etc etc..............

It's something of a sport for trolls to insert images of YouTubers, Instagram models, gamers, sports stars, minor celebrities etc into the discussion surrounding horrific events like this shooting with false info that they were a perp or a victim in the hope it gets picked up and passed on by legacy media. Which it often does

Tasteless but it's a thing